[kj] OT: The Lords

Christof hamille wessidetempest at hotmail.com
Sun Nov 2 16:02:20 EST 2008



I am jealous. The documentary sounds really cool. I had the same single signed by the band too. But someone walked off with it years later.

Wasn't there going to be a box set too?

long live Stiv

Chris


> From: partyslammer at socal.rr.com

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 12:16:46 -0800

> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: The Lords

>

> "Harold Grey" wrote:

>

>

> > Not to date myself, but I saw Lords of the New Church in the early 80s at

> > a small club in in Coney Island called the Brooklyn Zoo (aptly named!)

> > They were awesome and Stiv was outstanding. This was shortly after their

> > debut album came out.

>

> In a lot of ways, The Lords along with Hanoi Rocks were a few years ahead of

> their time and bands like Guns n' Roses really snaked a lot of their act of

> The Lords. I'll always contend The Lords debut album is a stone classic.

>

> I know I've probably mentioned this too many times already, but I was a huge

> fan of The Lords (that was my "partyslammer" youtube profile that vid came

> from, btw) and I met and hung out with Stiv and the rest of the band many

> times around local shows between '83 - '86. Stiv could be a really cool,

> pretty sharp guy, usually when fairly sober and either dangerously hilarious

> or at worst, an obnoxious asshole loaded.

>

> A couple key incidents involving Stiv include introducing a friend to him

> outside Fender's Ballroom in Long Beach in '85 after a show (in which a

> young Gun's n' Roses opened!) and a clearly trashed Stiv reaches out to

> shake the guy's hand and promptly projectile vomits on him. Another was

> when The Lords had left IRS Records and were playing almost weekly shows in

> any dive bar they could get booked at to make quick cash around '86 in

> Southern California (after original bass player Dave Tregunna left because

> he knew Miles Copeland was ripping off the band). They played a really

> crummy club in Huntington Beach to maybe 30 people basically a 5 minute walk

> from my place and Stiv and a roadie/drug dealer came over after the show and

> watched "Apocalypse Now" after I bragged about how good the "new" laserdisc"

> was (Stiv was a huge Jim Morrison fan and a big fan of the movie as can be

> heard on the song "Russian Roulette"). A few days later, I got Stiv to sign

> the LD sleeve ("Jim Lives Stiv Bator"):

>

> [IMG]http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h26/Partyslammer/apocalypsestivldcover.jpg[/IMG]

>

> Here's another sleeve the band signed:

>

> [IMG]http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h26/Partyslammer/LordsSignedEP.jpg[/IMG]

>

> I also had a lot of conversations with drummer Nicky Turner who was a pretty

> cool guy who was probably the one member of the band that had his head

> screwed on straight, although he kind of went to the dark side when he began

> working for Copeland as a "talent scout" when he figured there was no real

> future drumming for The Lords. Now, he almost is ashamed to recall his days

> in the band.

>

> These days, I keep (or maybe kept) infrequent contact with Brian James

> through his manager (who unfortunately just quit managing James). I have

> also held onto and never traded or torrented a 1st generation copy of a

> pretty amazing/amusing band-produced documentary the band did the last year

> they were together in 1988 when they gave one last effort to land a new

> record contract. Recently Brian James wanted to release it in conjunction

> with the "remixed" classic tracks cd "Rockers" (highly recommended if you

> can find it, btw) that came out earlier this year but the interest was so

> miniscule and Brian's focus so scattered these days, I doubt it'll ever

> officially see the light of day.

>

> T.B.

>

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