[kj] OT: The Lords
Christof hamille
wessidetempest at hotmail.com
Sun Nov 2 16:02:20 EST 2008
I am jealous. The documentary sounds really cool. I had the same single signed by the band too. But someone walked off with it years later.
Wasn't there going to be a box set too?
long live Stiv
Chris
> From: partyslammer at socal.rr.com
> To: gathering at misera.net
> Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 12:16:46 -0800
> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: The Lords
>
> "Harold Grey" wrote:
>
>
> > Not to date myself, but I saw Lords of the New Church in the early 80s at
> > a small club in in Coney Island called the Brooklyn Zoo (aptly named!)
> > They were awesome and Stiv was outstanding. This was shortly after their
> > debut album came out.
>
> In a lot of ways, The Lords along with Hanoi Rocks were a few years ahead of
> their time and bands like Guns n' Roses really snaked a lot of their act of
> The Lords. I'll always contend The Lords debut album is a stone classic.
>
> I know I've probably mentioned this too many times already, but I was a huge
> fan of The Lords (that was my "partyslammer" youtube profile that vid came
> from, btw) and I met and hung out with Stiv and the rest of the band many
> times around local shows between '83 - '86. Stiv could be a really cool,
> pretty sharp guy, usually when fairly sober and either dangerously hilarious
> or at worst, an obnoxious asshole loaded.
>
> A couple key incidents involving Stiv include introducing a friend to him
> outside Fender's Ballroom in Long Beach in '85 after a show (in which a
> young Gun's n' Roses opened!) and a clearly trashed Stiv reaches out to
> shake the guy's hand and promptly projectile vomits on him. Another was
> when The Lords had left IRS Records and were playing almost weekly shows in
> any dive bar they could get booked at to make quick cash around '86 in
> Southern California (after original bass player Dave Tregunna left because
> he knew Miles Copeland was ripping off the band). They played a really
> crummy club in Huntington Beach to maybe 30 people basically a 5 minute walk
> from my place and Stiv and a roadie/drug dealer came over after the show and
> watched "Apocalypse Now" after I bragged about how good the "new" laserdisc"
> was (Stiv was a huge Jim Morrison fan and a big fan of the movie as can be
> heard on the song "Russian Roulette"). A few days later, I got Stiv to sign
> the LD sleeve ("Jim Lives Stiv Bator"):
>
> [IMG]http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h26/Partyslammer/apocalypsestivldcover.jpg[/IMG]
>
> Here's another sleeve the band signed:
>
> [IMG]http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h26/Partyslammer/LordsSignedEP.jpg[/IMG]
>
> I also had a lot of conversations with drummer Nicky Turner who was a pretty
> cool guy who was probably the one member of the band that had his head
> screwed on straight, although he kind of went to the dark side when he began
> working for Copeland as a "talent scout" when he figured there was no real
> future drumming for The Lords. Now, he almost is ashamed to recall his days
> in the band.
>
> These days, I keep (or maybe kept) infrequent contact with Brian James
> through his manager (who unfortunately just quit managing James). I have
> also held onto and never traded or torrented a 1st generation copy of a
> pretty amazing/amusing band-produced documentary the band did the last year
> they were together in 1988 when they gave one last effort to land a new
> record contract. Recently Brian James wanted to release it in conjunction
> with the "remixed" classic tracks cd "Rockers" (highly recommended if you
> can find it, btw) that came out earlier this year but the interest was so
> miniscule and Brian's focus so scattered these days, I doubt it'll ever
> officially see the light of day.
>
> T.B.
>
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