[kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...
Brian Whitehead
bawhitehead at gmail.com
Wed Jun 10 10:32:39 EDT 2009
I was at the Blackburn gig the day before...
http://www.simpleminds.org/sm/tours/t1979/index.htm
Poor turn out as I remember.
Brian.
2009/6/10 <MichaelHead at hbosplc.com>
> saw them support Magazine at Sheffield Top Rank back in '79! they were
> promoting their first single 'Life In A Day' which I thought was okay. was
> amazed how 'stellar' it all went for them from there tho'
>
>
>
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> *From:* gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
> *On Behalf Of *melinda grant
> *Sent:* 10 June 2009 14:29
>
> *To:* gathering at misera.net
> *Subject:* Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...
>
> actually-talking of simple minds- i was in the wimpy cafe-remember those-in
> bristol back in 80 one afternoon,i was short of a bit of cash,guess who
> walked in-lead singer from simple minds,we struck up a conforsation and he
> ended up buying me a cheese burger ;D hes a real nice bloke i have nothing
> against him,and their music is ok ;)
>
> milindafgrant ps simple minds were playing the colston hall in bristol that
> night
>
> > From: dpeace at bigfoot.com
> > To: gathering at misera.net
> > Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 11:35:23 +0100
> > Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...
> >
> > I guess so. Stadium Rock periods are seldom forgiven, unless it was clear
> > from the start that it was the intention.
> >
> > And the early Simple Minds albums (Empires & Dance, Sons & Fascination &
> New
> > Gold Dream) are all excellent, and there are things to like about the
> others
> > too.
> >
> > Although the cover of "A Song From Under The Floorboards" on the bonus
> disc
> > with the new album is an ABOMINATION.
> >
> > Darren
> > Hungerford, UK
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
> On
> > Behalf Of Brendan
> > Sent: 10 June 2009 11:25 AM
> > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> > Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...
> >
> > So tell me, is it the U2 aspirations / comparisons that have the daggers
> > drawn for Simple Minds? I honestly thought for a long time that
> Waterfront
> > was a U2 track. Very Bono.
> >
> > Then again, I was convinced until recently that dogs couldn't look up.
> >
> > > I'd imagine it's the Simple Minds influence that appealed to me.
> > >
> > > Darren
> > > Hungerford, UK
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:
> gathering-bounces at misera.net]
> > > On
> > > Behalf Of Brendan
> > > Sent: 10 June 2009 11:07 AM
> > > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> > > Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...
> > >
> > > *INTENTIONALLY LOUD SNICKER*
> > >
> > >>>From what Jaz said at the time, it was certainly intended as a KJ
> album.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> And I quite like it. You can all fuck off.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Darren
> > >>
> > >> Hungerford, UK
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:
> gathering-bounces at misera.net]
> > >> On
> > >> Behalf Of MichaelHead at HBOSplc.com
> > >> Sent: 10 June 2009 8:48 AM
> > >> To: gathering at misera.net
> > >> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> thanks for the references. still reads to me that OTG started life as
> a
> > >> fully fledged KJ album.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> _____
> > >>
> > >> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:
> gathering-bounces at misera.net]
> > >> On
> > >> Behalf Of sade1
> > >> Sent: 10 June 2009 01:50
> > >> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> > >> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...
> > >>
> > >> IIRC from interviews at the time, it was some kind of Jaz project
> where
> > >> the
> > >> guys played but after fighting with Jaz either or both of the 2 Pauls
> > >> refused to have their names on it and basically ordered to Jaz to
> remove
> > >> the
> > >> names (for sure Raven did, acc. to Raven). It was all repackaged as KJ
> > >> by
> > >> The (Music) Man in order for The Man to recoup the costs of the album
> -
> > >> so
> > >> i
> > >> guess all their names went back on it for that reason(?)
> > >>
> > >> (but don't take my word for it, see for yourself here:
> > >> http://www.anirrationaldomain.net/articles/1987-1991/87index.html )
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Ha ha,I am just noticing now how beautiful it is, the irony of it all
> > >> that after OTG, KJ turned around and recorded EDVRE in no time at all
> > >> and
> > >> for almost next-to-nothing cost and it turned out ot be one of their
> > >> best
> > >> and most definitive albums ever.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Anyone know offhand how long EDVRE did take to record, was it a week,
> or
> > >> just under 2 weeks or... ?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ... ... ... ... ... ...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> [looking at the current state of things..]
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 'Save me...
> > >>
> > >> save me from Tomorrow..
> > >>
> > >> I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> _____
> > >>
> > >> From: "jpwhkj at aol.com" <jpwhkj at aol.com>
> > >> To: gathering at misera.net
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2009 5:27:52 PM
> > >> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...
> > >>
> > >> Yeah, I've wondered that as well. I tend to think that it was an
> > >> after-the-fact attempt at distancing themselves from a turd. But
> > >> occasionally I wonder if it really was a Jaz solo album - perhaps
> > >> especially
> > >> in terms of composition - and the Pauls just got roped in to playing
> > >> 'cos
> > >> they happened to be available.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: MichaelHead at HBOSplc.com
> > >> To: gathering at misera.net
> > >> Sent: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 13:26
> > >> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...
> > >>
> > >> I've always been puzzled by the assertion that OTG was not meant to be
> a
> > >> KJ album. How come the 2 Paul's play on the demo versions of the
> tracks
> > >> then?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:
> gathering-bounces at misera.net
> > >> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net?> ]
> > >> On Behalf Of Brendan
> > >> Sent: 09 June 2009 13:11
> > >> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> > >> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...
> > >>
> > >> I was the first to say, KJ sans Jaz, no way. I'll be the first to
> agree,
> > >> OTG IS shit. They have all but acknowledged that, and bearing in mind
> > >> the fact that it was never intended by the band to be a fully fledged
> KJ
> > >> album, I ignore it and don't let it stain their rep at all.
> > >>
> > >> Ade you going to download festival? Just saw the line up...sheesh.
> Some
> > >> great stuff there. FNM would be up your alley innit? You can go and
> > >> check out Chris Cornell's saggy tits too.
> > >>
> > >>> Here's another one - OTG is shit. Let's see who has a fucking cry
> over
> > >>
> > >>> that one!
> > >>>
> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
> > >>> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On
> > >> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On?>
> > >>> Behalf Of Darren A. Peace
> > >>> Sent: 09 June 2009 12:44
> > >>> To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
> > >>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Time for your meds?
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Clearly you should burn all your Banshees records as a penance (but
> > >>> don't microwave the CDs; I can attest that the bits of airborn carbon
> > >>> take an awful lot of cleaning).
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Darren
> > >>>
> > >>> Hungerford, UK
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
> > >>> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net
> > >> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net?> ]
> > >>> On Behalf Of ade
> > >>> Sent: 09 June 2009 12:32 PM
> > >>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> > >>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Wow. It now appears that I've been 'singling' Siouxsie out. If you go
> > >>> back through the thread you'll find that I was very disappointed with
> > >>> the fact she can't sing in tune on the 7 Year Itch dvd, that's all.
> > >>> Just because I find that dvd SO disappointing (disappointing because
> > >>> it could have been so much better). The vocal fucks the whole thing
> > >>> up. The performance was mind-numbingly fannytastic - I know, I was
> > >> there.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> It doesn't mean that every other item I have in my Banshees
> collection
> > >>
> > >>> (99% of everything) is now rendered SHIT. It doesn't mean I have it
> in
> > >>
> > >>> for Siouxsie either. FOR FUCK SAKE.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> How DARE I fucking criticise.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
> > >>> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On
> > >> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On?>
> > >>> Behalf Of Bette Dillinger
> > >>> Sent: 09 June 2009 01:49
> > >>> To: gathering at misera.net
> > >>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...
> > >>>
> > >>> I just watched some video from "The Seven Year Itch" tour on youtube.
> > >>> "Voodoo Dolly" done in a primitive way was pretty captivating. Sure,
> > >>> she sounded primitive as well, but looking at recent footage of say,
> > >>> Johnny Rotten makes me wonder why she is being singled out. She still
> > >>
> > >>> has a voice, and though out of tune, she embraces that. I also
> > >>> figured that was part of the point, and she has entralled me for
> years
> > >> due to her "fuck it"
> > >>> attitude. Her voice is spellbinding (har) despite this. John Lydon
> > >>> can barely get the words out to "Bodies" (I watched his 2007
> > >>> version).....and was playing the Hard Rock Casino in LV. I still
> > >>> consider her a force to be reckoned with, I guess is what I am trying
> > >>> to say. Her voice is even more subversive than when she started.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> _____
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 17:08:32 +0100
> > >>> From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk
> > >>> To: gathering at misera.net
> > >>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...
> > >>>
> > >>> She's lovely :)
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Oh, well I'm glad to hear she's regaining her voice. She was nowhere
> > >>> near as bad as that 7 yeat itch
> > >>>
> > >>> stuff when I saw some of the 90's Creatures gigs.
> > >>>
> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
> > >>> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On
> > >> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On?>
> > >>> Behalf Of Steve Hackett
> > >>> Sent: 07 June 2009 17:03
> > >>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> > >>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...
> > >>>
> > >>> Its much better than the 7 yr itch, certainly, but at times she does
> > >>> sound like a wounded buffalo when she tries to force some of the
> > >>> notes..looks great though. I couldn't get away with a Pam Hogg
> catsuit
> > >>
> > >>> like she does and I'm NOWHERE NEAR 50...
> > >>>
> > >>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>>
> > >>> From: ade <mailto:ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk
> > >> <mailto:ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk?> >
> > >>>
> > >>> To: A list <mailto:gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net
> ?>
> > >>> >
> > >> about all things Killing
> > >>> Joke (the band!)
> > >>>
> > >>> Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 4:04 PM
> > >>>
> > >>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Does she sing in tune on the live Mantaray stuff? I have that 7 year
> > >>> itch dvd & it's un-fucking-listenable. Utterly, utterly
> disappointing.
> > >>
> > >>> Luckily I couldn't tell she was ridiculously out of tune when I saw
> > >>> them on that tour in Sheffield. 'twas an awesome gig...
> > >>>
> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
> > >>> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On
> > >> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On?>
> > >>> Behalf Of Steve Hackett
> > >>> Sent: 06 June 2009 11:02
> > >>> To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; A list about all things Killing
> Joke
> > >>> (the
> > >>> band!)
> > >>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...
> > >>>
> > >>> got mine this week too - I think its pretty decent value on Amazon
> > >>> already. Particularly enjoyed the DVD - comparing the early footage
> to
> > >>
> > >>> the latest Mantaray DVD I can safely say Siouxsie has aged a lot
> > >>> better over the last 30 years than me...
> > >>>
> > >>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>>
> > >>> From: Darren A. <mailto:dpeace at bigfoot.com
> > >>> <mailto:dpeace at bigfoot.com?>
> > >>> >
> > >> Peace
> > >>>
> > >>> To: 'A <mailto:gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net?> >
> > >>> list
> > >> about all things Killing
> > >>> Joke (the band!)'
> > >>>
> > >>> Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 4:51 PM
> > >>>
> > >>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> It's a fantastic package.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> It renders "Voices On The Air" obsolete, however, as it includes all
> > >>> the Peel sessions. The quality is excellent, and the entire thing is
> > >>> only marred by the usual pretentious wankery of Paul Morley's "essay"
> > >>> (sic) in the booklet. The DVD is great too; I can now retire my
> > >>> DVD-from-TV of the Rock Goes To College.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Recommended, particularly when it comes down in price a bit.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Darren
> > >>>
> > >>> Hungerford, UK
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
> > >>> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net
> > >> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net?> ]
> > >>> On Behalf Of Blazingstar418
> > >>> Sent: 22 April 2009 8:44 AM
> > >>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> > >>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> This'll be a good one!
> > >>>
> > >>>
> http://www.amazon.co.uk/At-BBC-Siouxsie-Banshees/dp/B001UJGK7C/ref=dp_
> > >>> return_1?ie=UTF8&n=229816&s=music
> > >>>
> > >>> A L P
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> "The scene was wild and somewhat sinister. The darkness, the palms,
> > >>> the mountainous background, the silent lake below, the impenetrable
> > >>> canopy of space, studded with secretive and significant stars, formed
> > >>> a stupendous setting for the savage noise and blaze of the ceremony."
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> _____
> > >>>
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