[kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

[Karen Weil]

Prince cover? Good God. Glad I've never heard that.

k.w.
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From: "Darren A. Peace" <dpeace at bigfoot.com>
To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" 
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Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 12:43 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...



> AHA! AN ADMISSION OF CULPABILITY.

>

> A spot of extraordinary rendition and you'll be 'fessing up to Once Upon A

> Time, the Mandela Day single and that abortion of a Prince cover they did.

>

> Darren

> Hungerford, UK

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] 

> On

> Behalf Of ade

> Sent: 10 June 2009 8:31 PM

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

>

> But only the VERY early stuff !

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Karen Weil

> Sent: 10 June 2009 19:01

> To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke

> (the band!)

> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

>

>

> Here, here to Darren's comments on SM. Early stuff was fantastic.

>

> Cheers,

>

> Karen

> San Diego, USA

> ----- Original Message ----- 

> From: "Darren A. Peace" <dpeace at bigfoot.com>

> To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'"

> <gathering at misera.net>

> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 3:35 AM

> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

>

>

>>I guess so. Stadium Rock periods are seldom forgiven, unless it was clear

>> from the start that it was the intention.

>>

>> And the early Simple Minds albums (Empires & Dance, Sons & Fascination &

>> New

>> Gold Dream) are all excellent, and there are things to like about the

>> others

>> too.

>>

>> Although the cover of "A Song From Under The Floorboards" on the bonus

>> disc

>> with the new album is an ABOMINATION.

>>

>> Darren

>> Hungerford, UK

>>

>> -----Original Message-----

>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]

>> On

>> Behalf Of Brendan

>> Sent: 10 June 2009 11:25 AM

>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

>>

>> So tell me, is it the U2 aspirations / comparisons that have the daggers

>> drawn for Simple Minds? I honestly thought for a long time that 

>> Waterfront

>> was a U2 track. Very Bono.

>>

>> Then again, I was convinced until recently that dogs couldn't look up.

>>

>>> I'd imagine it's the Simple Minds influence that appealed to me.

>>>

>>> Darren

>>> Hungerford, UK

>>>

>>> -----Original Message-----

>>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]

>>> On

>>> Behalf Of Brendan

>>> Sent: 10 June 2009 11:07 AM

>>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

>>>

>>> *INTENTIONALLY LOUD SNICKER*

>>>

>>>>>From what Jaz said at the time, it was certainly intended as a KJ 

>>>>>album.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> And I quite like it. You can all fuck off.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Darren

>>>>

>>>> Hungerford, UK

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net 

>>>> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]

>>>> On

>>>> Behalf Of MichaelHead at HBOSplc.com

>>>> Sent: 10 June 2009 8:48 AM

>>>> To: gathering at misera.net

>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> thanks for the references. still reads to me that OTG started life as a

>>>> fully fledged KJ album.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>   _____

>>>>

>>>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net 

>>>> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]

>>>> On

>>>> Behalf Of sade1

>>>> Sent: 10 June 2009 01:50

>>>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

>>>>

>>>> IIRC from interviews at the time, it was some kind of Jaz project where

>>>> the

>>>> guys played but after fighting with Jaz either or both of the 2 Pauls

>>>> refused to have their names on it and basically ordered to Jaz to 

>>>> remove

>>>> the

>>>> names (for sure Raven did, acc. to Raven). It was all repackaged as KJ

>>>> by

>>>> The (Music) Man in order for The Man to recoup the costs of the album -

>>>> so

>>>> i

>>>> guess all their names went back on it for that reason(?)

>>>>

>>>>  (but don't take my word for it, see for yourself here:

>>>> http://www.anirrationaldomain.net/articles/1987-1991/87index.html )

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>    Ha ha,I am just noticing now how beautiful it is, the irony of it 

>>>> all

>>>> that after OTG, KJ turned around and recorded EDVRE in no time at all

>>>> and

>>>> for almost next-to-nothing cost and it turned out ot be one of their

>>>> best

>>>> and most definitive albums ever.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Anyone know offhand how long EDVRE did take to record, was it a week, 

>>>> or

>>>> just under 2 weeks or... ?

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> ... ... ... ... ... ...

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> [looking at the current state of things..]

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> 'Save me...

>>>>

>>>>   save me from Tomorrow..

>>>>

>>>>     I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>   _____

>>>>

>>>> From: "jpwhkj at aol.com" <jpwhkj at aol.com>

>>>> To: gathering at misera.net

>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2009 5:27:52 PM

>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

>>>>

>>>> Yeah, I've wondered that as well.  I tend to think that it was an

>>>> after-the-fact attempt at distancing themselves from a turd.  But

>>>> occasionally I wonder if it really was a Jaz solo album - perhaps

>>>> especially

>>>> in terms of composition - and the Pauls just got roped in to playing

>>>> 'cos

>>>> they happened to be available.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> -----Original Message-----

>>>> From: MichaelHead at HBOSplc.com

>>>> To: gathering at misera.net

>>>> Sent: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 13:26

>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

>>>>

>>>> I've always been puzzled by the assertion that OTG was not meant to be 

>>>> a

>>>> KJ album. How come the 2 Paul's play on the demo versions of the tracks

>>>> then?

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> -----Original Message-----

>>>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net

>>>> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net?> ]

>>>> On Behalf Of Brendan

>>>> Sent: 09 June 2009 13:11

>>>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

>>>>

>>>> I was the first to say, KJ sans Jaz, no way. I'll be the first to 

>>>> agree,

>>>> OTG IS shit. They have all but acknowledged that, and bearing in mind

>>>> the fact that it was never intended by the band to be a fully fledged 

>>>> KJ

>>>> album, I ignore it and don't let it stain their rep at all.

>>>>

>>>> Ade you going to download festival? Just saw the line up...sheesh. Some

>>>> great stuff there. FNM would be up your alley innit? You can go and

>>>> check out Chris Cornell's saggy tits too.

>>>>

>>>>> Here's another one - OTG is shit. Let's see who has a fucking cry over

>>>>

>>>>> that one!

>>>>>

>>>>> -----Original Message-----

>>>>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

>>>>> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On

>>>> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On?>

>>>>> Behalf Of Darren A. Peace

>>>>> Sent: 09 June 2009 12:44

>>>>> To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'

>>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Time for your meds?

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Clearly you should burn all your Banshees records as a penance (but

>>>>> don't microwave the CDs; I can attest that the bits of airborn carbon

>>>>> take an awful lot of cleaning).

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Darren

>>>>>

>>>>> Hungerford, UK

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

>>>>> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net

>>>> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net?> ]

>>>>> On Behalf Of ade

>>>>> Sent: 09 June 2009 12:32 PM

>>>>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Wow. It now appears that I've been 'singling' Siouxsie out. If you go

>>>>> back through the thread you'll find that I was very disappointed with

>>>>> the fact she can't sing in tune on the 7 Year Itch dvd, that's all.

>>>>> Just because I find that dvd SO disappointing (disappointing because

>>>>> it could have been so much better). The vocal fucks the whole thing

>>>>> up. The performance was mind-numbingly fannytastic - I know, I was

>>>> there.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> It doesn't mean that every other item I have in my Banshees collection

>>>>

>>>>> (99% of everything) is now rendered SHIT. It doesn't mean I have it in

>>>>

>>>>> for Siouxsie either. FOR FUCK SAKE.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> How DARE I fucking criticise.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> -----Original Message-----

>>>>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

>>>>> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On

>>>> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On?>

>>>>> Behalf Of Bette Dillinger

>>>>> Sent: 09 June 2009 01:49

>>>>> To: gathering at misera.net

>>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

>>>>>

>>>>> I just watched some video from "The Seven Year Itch" tour on youtube.

>>>>> "Voodoo Dolly" done in a primitive way was pretty captivating.  Sure,

>>>>> she sounded primitive as well, but looking at recent footage of say,

>>>>> Johnny Rotten makes me wonder why she is being singled out.  She still

>>>>

>>>>> has a voice, and though out of tune, she embraces that.  I also

>>>>> figured that was part of the point, and she has entralled me for years

>>>> due to her "fuck it"

>>>>> attitude.  Her voice is spellbinding (har) despite this.  John Lydon

>>>>> can barely get the words out to "Bodies" (I watched his 2007

>>>>> version).....and was playing the Hard Rock Casino in LV.  I still

>>>>> consider her a force to be reckoned with, I guess is what I am trying

>>>>> to say.  Her voice is even more subversive than when she started.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>   _____

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 17:08:32 +0100

>>>>> From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk

>>>>> To: gathering at misera.net

>>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

>>>>>

>>>>> She's lovely :)

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Oh, well I'm glad to hear she's regaining her voice. She was nowhere

>>>>> near as bad as that 7 yeat itch

>>>>>

>>>>> stuff when I saw some of the 90's Creatures gigs.

>>>>>

>>>>> -----Original Message-----

>>>>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

>>>>> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On

>>>> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On?>

>>>>> Behalf Of Steve Hackett

>>>>> Sent: 07 June 2009 17:03

>>>>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

>>>>>

>>>>> Its much better than the 7 yr itch, certainly, but at times she does

>>>>> sound like a wounded buffalo when she tries to force some of the

>>>>> notes..looks great though. I couldn't get away with a Pam Hogg catsuit

>>>>

>>>>> like she does and I'm NOWHERE NEAR 50...

>>>>>

>>>>> ----- Original Message -----

>>>>>

>>>>> From: ade <mailto:ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk

>>>> <mailto:ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk?> >

>>>>>

>>>>> To: A list  <mailto:gathering at misera.net 

>>>>> <mailto:gathering at misera.net?>

>>>>> >

>>>> about all things Killing

>>>>> Joke (the band!)

>>>>>

>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 4:04 PM

>>>>>

>>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Does she sing in tune on the live Mantaray stuff? I have that 7 year

>>>>> itch dvd & it's un-fucking-listenable. Utterly, utterly disappointing.

>>>>

>>>>> Luckily I couldn't tell she was ridiculously out of tune when I saw

>>>>> them on that tour in Sheffield. 'twas an awesome gig...

>>>>>

>>>>> -----Original Message-----

>>>>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

>>>>> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On

>>>> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On?>

>>>>> Behalf Of Steve Hackett

>>>>> Sent: 06 June 2009 11:02

>>>>> To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke

>>>>> (the

>>>>> band!)

>>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

>>>>>

>>>>> got mine this week too - I think its pretty decent value on Amazon

>>>>> already. Particularly enjoyed the DVD - comparing the early footage to

>>>>

>>>>> the latest Mantaray DVD I can safely say Siouxsie has aged a lot

>>>>> better over the last 30 years than me...

>>>>>

>>>>> ----- Original Message -----

>>>>>

>>>>> From: Darren A.  <mailto:dpeace at bigfoot.com

>>>>> <mailto:dpeace at bigfoot.com?>

>>>>> >

>>>> Peace

>>>>>

>>>>> To: 'A  <mailto:gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net?> >

>>>>> list

>>>> about all things Killing

>>>>> Joke (the band!)'

>>>>>

>>>>> Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 4:51 PM

>>>>>

>>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> It's a fantastic package.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> It renders "Voices On The Air" obsolete, however, as it includes all

>>>>> the Peel sessions. The quality is excellent, and the entire thing is

>>>>> only marred by the usual pretentious wankery of Paul Morley's "essay"

>>>>> (sic) in the booklet. The DVD is great too; I can now retire my

>>>>> DVD-from-TV of the Rock Goes To College.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Recommended, particularly when it comes down in price a bit.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Darren

>>>>>

>>>>> Hungerford, UK

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

>>>>> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net

>>>> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net?> ]

>>>>> On Behalf Of Blazingstar418

>>>>> Sent: 22 April 2009 8:44 AM

>>>>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> This'll be a good one!

>>>>>

>>>>> http://www.amazon.co.uk/At-BBC-Siouxsie-Banshees/dp/B001UJGK7C/ref=dp_

>>>>> return_1?ie=UTF8&n=229816&s=music

>>>>>

>>>>> A L P

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> "The scene was wild and somewhat sinister. The darkness, the palms,

>>>>> the mountainous background, the silent lake below, the impenetrable

>>>>> canopy of space, studded with secretive and significant stars, formed

>>>>> a stupendous setting for the savage noise and blaze of the ceremony."

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

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>>>>>

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