[kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

[Brendan Quinn]

Most sane people wouldn’t claim that altruism is a trait exclusive to one
political ideology, I wouldn’t bother continuing a conversation with anyone
that did – what’s the point?

 

I just dunno how anyone could defend modern capitalism – gaudy shopping
malls, whole neighbourhoods full of soulless advertising that’s impossible
to avoid (yes, I’ve been to LA
some parts of it gave me the total shits),
cynical advertising steered by psychologists, aimed at kids, selling
unnatural chemical concoctions as ‘food’, all the millions of people
trudging to work every day at a job they hate (I’m so glad I don’t have to
take the bus in to work in the mornings anymore because the cloud of doom
amongst the condemned is depressing
), political (monetary) lobbying by
powerful vested interests, people thinking they are better than other people
because of their income bracket, planned obsolescence, plastic pieces of
shit that don’t last 3 months, landfill full of heavy metals
Republicans
 

 

People being FORCED to help out is NOT acceptable.

 

People being forced to work 40 hours a week at soulless jobs isn’t a great
state of affairs either, being forced to put up with pollution, rampant
destruction of natural resources, getting one vote every 4 years that means
practically nothing in the scheme of things, getting ripped off by
corporations and then expected to pay to bail them out
etc etc. 

 

 

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of The Exorcist
Sent: Thursday, 19 March 2009 00:35
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

 

The same way communists and Marxists quote their supposedly "greater" brand
of living.
Giving and helping is NOT a communist/marxist/whateverist idea.

It was done before any ism's or ocrasies. 

People helping each other out is fine and lovely. You'd be quite surprised
at how many greedy "Investors", dare I say "capitalists" 
give out of their pocket to charities. Come to think of it when the leader
of the US chapter of communists was asked  about his
charity it was some trifling percentage of his gross annual income and he
gave that "charity" to the very own paper his group puts out.

People being FORCED to help out is NOT acceptable.

Me giving 5 dollars to a homeless man is NICE. You putting a knife to my
throat and forcing me to give the homeless man 5 dollars
is WRONG.

And that last line
"And don't forget that we've never lived in a time when poeple in power are
prevented form being corrupt, so how can we know if everyone in power will
automatically be corrupt?"

*shakes head* Where to begin....

At 12:30 PM 3/17/2009, GREG SLAWSON wrote:



People are always willing to parrot plattitudes they've learned from
anti-communist teachers, parents, etc., w/o really thinking about them. But
in the US there is a nightly segment on nbc news about how, in the tough
economy, there is an outpouring of people helping each other, doing things
for free, giving more to the less fortunate, etc., w/o looking for any
praise or payback. And don't forget that we've never lived in a time when
poeple in power are prevented form being corrupt, so how can we know if
everyone in power will automatically be corrupt?
 

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From: folk.devil at hotmail.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 08:30:35 -0700
Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

I find it interesting when some people term humanity as some form of
parasite. Do these people include themselves in the analogy, or not? If yes,
do they use the idea as some form of condonation for not giving a sh*t?
There is a trend, particularly in industrial music, to adopt this
idea....hell of a way to perpetuate the inert, or do they feel that they are
in touch with the zeitgeist?

 

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From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 01:22:44 +1100
Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1655415,00.html

 

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net
<mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net> ] On Behalf Of Stephen Lawrence
Sent: Tuesday, 17 March 2009 22:31
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

 

mankind has and continues to rule to the detriment of others . Any leader
showing compassion is usually assassinated.Power corrupts and usually those
at the top are moulded and coersed by the host of sychophants and other
manipulators who have thier own agenda .  No doubt i will be scoffed and
jeered at when i say that mankind is incapable of looking after himself and
the world will only change for the better when jesus comes to right the
wrongs ...remember how they laughed at the people attempting to make flight
possible ...i rest my case 
 

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From: jelbod at hotmail.co.uk
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:01:15 +0000
Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word


 and there has to a way to recall leaders when they do try to climb above
others...

 
 Like a coup or an asassination? I wish i had your faith, but 99% of the
time, those that rise to the top make damn sure they can stay there. You can
never stop those that wish to suceed at the expense of others, "feather the
nest and fuck the rest" etc. The concept of a council like the Roman senate
was supposed to keep things fair and right but ultimately backhanders,
coersion and corruption take over, all to satisfy the greedy few, and those
Wolves ALWAYS come dressed in Sheeps clothing.
 
Nah, i think i'l just stick to treating people like i want to be treated
myself and hope it eventually rubs off on everyone.
 
Keep dreaming Jel.
 
Over and out
 
Jelski
 

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From: gregslawson at msn.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:36:00 -0400
Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

That's the key--how to keep people from being top of the pile and ripping
others off. The decision-making has to be collectivized and people have to
be accountable (the opposite of the US bankers) and there has to a way to
recall leaders when they do try to climb above others...
 

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From: jelbod at hotmail.co.uk
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:59:07 +0000
Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

(w/communist distribution of goods and services according to need). 
 
And WHO decides who needs what? There's always someone at the top of the
pile. Great in theory, sadly lacking in practice.
 
 Jelski
 

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From: gregslawson at msn.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 12:27:30 -0400
Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

Funny, the Progressive Labor Party advocates a future revolutionary society
in which we operate without money! (w/communist distribution of goods and
services according to need). Maybe Jaz will join!
 

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From: gasw30 at hotmail.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:19:35 +0000
Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

Presumably Jaz's talk will centre on his upcoming book: 

 


>From Jaz's entry on the wikipedia site (I don't think it's been mentioned

here yet, but apols etc).

 

Coleman is writing a book about permaculture, free energy, freedom and
freedom-loving individuals. The main thesis is on how to survive without
money. The book will be divided into two parts; one part concentrating on
the music and other on the ideas behind it.
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaz_Coleman#cite_note-9> [10] The book is
planned to be published in 2009.
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaz_Coleman#cite_note-10> [11]

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From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 19:09:36 +0000
Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

but bob we may not be able to contain laughter ;D)))
 
i will ask as well for free,i dont care lol
 
milindafgrant
 

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From: bbarathy at btinternet.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 18:32:16 +0000
Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

If I go up then you're not allowed to snigger behind me! Or blowpipe me in
the back with chewed up paper

 

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mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Phillipps Marc

Sent: 13 March 2009 16:15

To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word


>part of what keeps us all interested.


And constantly frustrated 

I have a crisp £5 note for the first person to ask him about Gems of Power
at the London do :o) 

Marc.

 

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