[kj] Prong go disco / KJ @ ATP review

sade1 saulomar1 at yahoo.com
Thu May 21 21:10:42 EDT 2009


> it's hard to say, you always have 'peak experience' bias from the first version




Gaaah, i wrote that all wrong, a correction is in order. I meant to say I just recently
heard "Hurt" as sung by Johnny Cash for the 1st time ever, otherwise, i'd heard 
the song itself years back when I 1st got "Downward Spiral." MyBad.

 It's got me tinking how many other songs out there are better sung by someone
else other than the original singer/group.



... ... ... ... ... ...

[looking at the current state of things..]
 
'Save me...
  save me from Tomorrow..
    I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'  





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From: Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 5:48:48 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] Prong go disco / KJ @ ATP review

I agree re Hurt, but it's hard to say, you always have 'peak experience'
bias from the first version of a song you like, and if you get the
chronology wrong it can kind of stuff up the proportion of appreciation
the original and coverer gets...I'm rambling.


>> I have always TRIED to like NIN

>

> Same here...

>

>

>> but never found a reason to, 

>

> ..same here.  After "Pretty Hate Machine" and "The Downward Spiral" i

> don't

> think there was ever a real reason to like NIN much.

>

> btw, I just heard "Hurt" for the 1st (or at most, the 2nd) time ever, as

> sung by Johnny Cash...  let's

> just say it should've been Johnny's - and only Johnny's - song all along,

> from the very beginning.

>

> I never got into Johnny's music, but I can tell he is a million times

> better and 'deeper' singer than Reznor

> ever will be. He made NINny's version soond like shit in comparison. Same

> for when I saw NIN open for

> David Bowie in '96 when Bowie and Trent shared the stage for the last note

> of the last song of NIN's set - which may have been "Hurt" also, IIRC.

>

>

>  

> ... ... ... ... ... ...

>

> [looking at the current state of things..]

>  

> 'Save me...

>   save me from Tomorrow..

>     I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'  

>

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> <gathering at misera.net>

> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 8:56:00 PM

> Subject: Re: [kj] Prong go disco / KJ @ ATP review

>

> Nah it was cos he didn't acknowledge the crowd at all until he said that

> it was the last time they'd be playing NZ...no 'thanks for coming &

> supporting us' or anything...he was boo''d for that, it was quite a $hit

> vibe actually. Not the worst transgression in the world, he just came

> across like a dick the way he did it. Then stormed off with no encore.

> Other than that I have always TRIED to like NIN but never found a reason

> to, after really trying hard, and forking out for 2 tix to see that...I

> was pretty slutted. So it's partly my fault, setting myself up to fail,

> going out on a limb trying to like something that I honestly feel is

> pretty luke warm...NIN's lyrics I find pretty embarassing. And Trentnor

> really just rubs me up the wrong way...not as bad as Kiedis or anything

> but on that scale. It's probably quite irrational to be honest. Just how

> he claims being responsible for the 90s alt thing and all that...ugh. I

> remember watching Perfect Drug on tell back in the day, wondering what

> everyone was so interested in, it bored me silly.

>

> I can't actually fault him for taking the pi$$ outta Cornell though,

> seeing as I feel the same.

>

> Oh and I was talkin about the reviewer not knowing anything in my

> mini-rant there, not Ade (think it was his post I was replying to...?)

>

>> Hey Brendan

>>  

>> Why the hate-on for Reznor? I remember you posted some rant after a

>> concert a while back ;) - Is it cos he didn't do an encore?

>>  

>> Geoff

>>

>> --- On Wed, 20/5/09, Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:

>>

>>

>> From: Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>

>> Subject: Re: [kj] Prong go disco / KJ @ ATP review

>> To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'"

>> <gathering at misera.net>

>> Received: Wednesday, 20 May, 2009, 11:39 PM

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> Mentioning Trent Dickface Reznor in the same breath as Killing Joke

>> illuminates how little you know about anything. Sorry, sad but true.

>>  

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]

>> On Behalf Of ade

>> Sent: Wednesday, 20 May 2009 8:30 a.m.

>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>> Subject: Re: [kj] Prong go disco / KJ @ ATP review

>>  

>>

>> Respect to him !!!

>>

>>  

>>

>> Looky here for a review from KJ @ ATP:

>> http://drownedinsound.com/in_depth/4136820

>>

>>  

>>

>> "If you were to ask any Killing Joke fan in the room for the best

>> couplet

>> to start the set, most wouldn’t disagree with

>> ‘Requiem’ and

>> ‘Wardance’. Jaz Coleman meanwhile strikes a menacing pose,

>> like a

>> mystical uncle with the shared genetics of Trent Reznor and Alice

>> Cooper.

>> Geordie’s guitar sounds are simply euphoric, an original

>> underrated

>> master whose inspiration holds no boundaries, while the tribal rhythms

>> of

>> Paul Ferguson coupled with Youth’s elegant dubbed-up basslines

>> are a joy

>> to behold, none more so than on ‘Turn To Red’ or

>> ‘Psyche’s

>> frenzied assault which causes the Centre Stage’s dancefloor to

>> erupt as

>> one sweaty mass. Simply awesome, from start to finish."

>>

>>  

>>

>> Sounds like they did a good job ;)

>>

>> -----Original Message-----

>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

>> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On

>> Behalf Of folk devil

>> Sent: 19 May 2009 23:24

>> To: gathering at misera.net

>> Subject: Re: [kj] Prong go disco

>> I understand Jaz is also a fan of Boney M and Abba.

>> A friend witnessed him dancing and singing along to dancing queen ;)

>>  

>>

>>

>>

>> Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 23:22:11 +0100

>> From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk

>> To: gathering at misera.net

>> Subject: Re: [kj] Prong go disco

>>

>> There were a couple of blokes in there - Nile Rodgers is a legendary

>> guitarist these days. Bit of a rhythm monster!

>>

>> -----Original Message-----

>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

>> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On

>> Behalf Of melinda grant

>> Sent: 19 May 2009 23:14

>> To: gathering at misera.net

>> Subject: Re: [kj] Prong go disco

>> ahhh but let us remember that killing joke were influenced by 1970s

>> disco

>> all girl band-chic --back in 78/79 yes,yes awful i was never into

>> chic but they certainly helped to shaped the rytham section of

>> k.j ;)

>>  

>> milindafgrant ps prong go disco-oh dear!

>>  

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