[kj] Prong go disco / KJ @ ATP review

Brendan bq at soundgardener.co.nz
Thu May 21 21:15:33 EDT 2009

I heard Cash's version first and I prefer but I suffer from bias cos
that's the first version I heard...I gotta say though, when I listened to
NIN's one I was totally underwhelmed. Cash really owned it. He did similar
with Soundgarden's Rusty Cage, although you'd never say he did it
better...Rusty Cage is a brilliant track, awesome tempo change etc. He
threw in a slow-burn slide guitar bit though that totally fucking rules.
Totally made it his own, and it works for him perfectly.


>> it's hard to say, you always have 'peak experience' bias from the first

>> version

>

>

>

> Gaaah, i wrote that all wrong, a correction is in order. I meant to say I

> just recently

> heard "Hurt" as sung by Johnny Cash for the 1st time ever, otherwise, i'd

> heard 

> the song itself years back when I 1st got "Downward Spiral." MyBad.

>

>  It's got me tinking how many other songs out there are better sung by

> someone

> else other than the original singer/group.

>

>

>

> ... ... ... ... ... ...

>

> [looking at the current state of things..]

>  

> 'Save me...

>   save me from Tomorrow..

>     I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'  

>

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> <gathering at misera.net>

> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 5:48:48 PM

> Subject: Re: [kj] Prong go disco / KJ @ ATP review

>

> I agree re Hurt, but it's hard to say, you always have 'peak experience'

> bias from the first version of a song you like, and if you get the

> chronology wrong it can kind of stuff up the proportion of appreciation

> the original and coverer gets...I'm rambling.

>

>>> I have always TRIED to like NIN

>>

>> Same here...

>>

>>

>>> but never found a reason to, 

>>

>> ..same here.  After "Pretty Hate Machine" and "The Downward Spiral" i

>> don't

>> think there was ever a real reason to like NIN much.

>>

>> btw, I just heard "Hurt" for the 1st (or at most, the 2nd) time ever, as

>> sung by Johnny Cash...  let's

>> just say it should've been Johnny's - and only Johnny's - song all

>> along,

>> from the very beginning.

>>

>> I never got into Johnny's music, but I can tell he is a million times

>> better and 'deeper' singer than Reznor

>> ever will be. He made NINny's version soond like shit in comparison.

>> Same

>> for when I saw NIN open for

>> David Bowie in '96 when Bowie and Trent shared the stage for the last

>> note

>> of the last song of NIN's set - which may have been "Hurt" also, IIRC.

>>

>>

>>  

>> ... ... ... ... ... ...

>>

>> [looking at the current state of things..]

>>  

>> 'Save me...

>>   save me from Tomorrow..

>>     I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'  

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> ________________________________

>> From: Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>

>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>> <gathering at misera.net>

>> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 8:56:00 PM

>> Subject: Re: [kj] Prong go disco / KJ @ ATP review

>>

>> Nah it was cos he didn't acknowledge the crowd at all until he said that

>> it was the last time they'd be playing NZ...no 'thanks for coming &

>> supporting us' or anything...he was boo''d for that, it was quite a $hit

>> vibe actually. Not the worst transgression in the world, he just came

>> across like a dick the way he did it. Then stormed off with no encore.

>> Other than that I have always TRIED to like NIN but never found a reason

>> to, after really trying hard, and forking out for 2 tix to see that...I

>> was pretty slutted. So it's partly my fault, setting myself up to fail,

>> going out on a limb trying to like something that I honestly feel is

>> pretty luke warm...NIN's lyrics I find pretty embarassing. And Trentnor

>> really just rubs me up the wrong way...not as bad as Kiedis or anything

>> but on that scale. It's probably quite irrational to be honest. Just how

>> he claims being responsible for the 90s alt thing and all that...ugh. I

>> remember watching Perfect Drug on tell back in the day, wondering what

>> everyone was so interested in, it bored me silly.

>>

>> I can't actually fault him for taking the pi$$ outta Cornell though,

>> seeing as I feel the same.

>>

>> Oh and I was talkin about the reviewer not knowing anything in my

>> mini-rant there, not Ade (think it was his post I was replying to...?)

>>

>>> Hey Brendan

>>>  

>>> Why the hate-on for Reznor? I remember you posted some rant after a

>>> concert a while back ;) - Is it cos he didn't do an encore?

>>>  

>>> Geoff

>>>

>>> --- On Wed, 20/5/09, Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>> From: Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>

>>> Subject: Re: [kj] Prong go disco / KJ @ ATP review

>>> To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'"

>>> <gathering at misera.net>

>>> Received: Wednesday, 20 May, 2009, 11:39 PM

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Mentioning Trent Dickface Reznor in the same breath as Killing Joke

>>> illuminates how little you know about anything. Sorry, sad but true.

>>>  

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

>>> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]

>>> On Behalf Of ade

>>> Sent: Wednesday, 20 May 2009 8:30 a.m.

>>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>>> Subject: Re: [kj] Prong go disco / KJ @ ATP review

>>>  

>>>

>>> Respect to him !!!

>>>

>>>  

>>>

>>> Looky here for a review from KJ @ ATP:

>>> http://drownedinsound.com/in_depth/4136820

>>>

>>>  

>>>

>>> "If you were to ask any Killing Joke fan in the room for the best

>>> couplet

>>> to start the set, most wouldn’t disagree with

>>> ‘Requiem’ and

>>> ‘Wardance’. Jaz Coleman meanwhile

>>> strikes a menacing pose,

>>> like a

>>> mystical uncle with the shared genetics of Trent Reznor and Alice

>>> Cooper.

>>> Geordie’s guitar sounds are simply euphoric, an

>>> original

>>> underrated

>>> master whose inspiration holds no boundaries, while the tribal rhythms

>>> of

>>> Paul Ferguson coupled with Youth’s elegant dubbed-up

>>> basslines

>>> are a joy

>>> to behold, none more so than on ‘Turn To

>>> Red’ or

>>> ‘Psyche’s

>>> frenzied assault which causes the Centre Stage’s

>>> dancefloor to

>>> erupt as

>>> one sweaty mass. Simply awesome, from start to finish."

>>>

>>>  

>>>

>>> Sounds like they did a good job ;)

>>>

>>> -----Original Message-----

>>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

>>> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On

>>> Behalf Of folk devil

>>> Sent: 19 May 2009 23:24

>>> To: gathering at misera.net

>>> Subject: Re: [kj] Prong go disco

>>> I understand Jaz is also a fan of Boney M and Abba.

>>> A friend witnessed him dancing and singing along to dancing

>>> queen ;)

>>>  

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 23:22:11 +0100

>>> From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk

>>> To: gathering at misera.net

>>> Subject: Re: [kj] Prong go disco

>>>

>>> There were a couple of blokes in there - Nile Rodgers is a legendary

>>> guitarist these days. Bit of a rhythm monster!

>>>

>>> -----Original Message-----

>>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

>>> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On

>>> Behalf Of melinda grant

>>> Sent: 19 May 2009 23:14

>>> To: gathering at misera.net

>>> Subject: Re: [kj] Prong go disco

>>> ahhh but let us remember that killing joke were influenced by 1970s

>>> disco

>>> all girl band-chic --back in 78/79 yes,yes awful i was never

>>> into

>>> chic but they certainly helped to shaped the rytham section of

>>> k.j ;)

>>>  

>>> milindafgrant ps prong go disco-oh dear!

>>>  

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