[kj] New KJ cover from MM-related group:

[sade1]

> ..he sued. And settled. If it was out of merit he would go to court to win.


Not necessarily. Lawsuits can be so destructive of a person's health, wealth, 
treasure, irreversibly lost time of your life, and of quality-of-life that 
actually winning (as opposed to "just" prevailing) can permanently ruin you or 
stunt the success and vibrance of the "rest of your life." It's one BIG reason 
why large companies drag out litigation (usu. when sued by 
individuals/class-actions) for-ev-er. Because as the potential sacrifice becomes 
clear, being right til the bitter end is either not worth it, or not even doable 
for a lot of people.  

Look up the actual costs of litigation and the personal travails of any person 
(a plaintiff, hopefully) going thru it and you'll know. Or live thru an entire, 
8-hr, videotaped, 3-lawyers-against-lil'-ol'-me, Nazi interroga' *erm* 
deposition 3 days in a row and see how you endure it, even with your moral 
fortitude still rarin'-to-go. 

Or ask me, I've been going thru a few class-action suits for 6 years and 
presently. And that's that I'm a single guy with no wife or kids or even a 
full-blown career to nurture and grow.


 



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From: Wessidetempest <wessidetempest at hotmail.com>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Cc: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Wed, March 9, 2011 7:42:38 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] New KJ cover from MM-related group:


Money is not his god but he sued. And settled. If it was out of merit he would 
go to court to win. 
Does MMii refer to Marilyn Monroe OR Marilyn Manson. Either way let's try to 
come up with something original and not sponge off of the past. 
And finally I do not have to listen to the track. I cam already tell it's third 
rate and likely obvious. Artwork is typical. 

They're fifteen minutes of fame was extended for a few years. I'm happy to see 
it's over. But they did drag that ending out as long as they could

Chris




On Mar 9, 2011, at 10:06 AM, "Phillipps Marc" <Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk> 
wrote:


I’m with Alex on this one 

> 

>His claims when he sued Manson make for amusing reading though 

> 

>

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>From:gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On 

>Behalf Of Alexander Smith

>Sent: 09 March 2011 14:51

>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>Subject: Re: [kj] New KJ cover from MM-related group:

> 

> 

>Sorry to be Johnny Negative, but thumbs down, I say. 

> 

>Alex in NYC

> 

> 

>On Mar 9, 2011, at 9:31 AM, Rheinhold Squeegee wrote:

>

>

>

>http://www.side-line.com/index.php

>Marilyn Manson offspring Pogo launches debut MMII single - a Killing Joke cover

>Marilyn Manson CDs on eBay USA | eBay UK | eBay GER

>  09 Mar, 2011 Share  

> 

>

>Is the time of the year for the Marilyn Manson offspring to show what they have 

>on offer so it seems. After Tim Skold (under the Skold moniker), it's now the 

>turn of Madonna Wayne Gacy (real name Stephen Gregory Bier Jr.) aka Pogo to 

>launch his own act: MMII. The new band from former 17-year member of Marilyn 

>Manson, Pogo, also enlisted Brian Diemar and Hoss.

>

>A first teaser single is out now, "Money is not our God" (you can get the track, 

>a Killing Joke cover, at Amazon MP3 US, at Amazon MP3 DE and at Amazon MP3 UK). 

>New tracks and a full CD will be released in a couple months 'as well as very 

>cool merch' so the band says. Pogo was responsible for much of the Marilyn 

>Manson designs. There are a bunch guests expected to appear on the album. More 

>news soon. And small detail, we noticed that MMII also refers to a book, check 

>it out here and you'll know the reference to his former musical godfather.

>Content Continues Below

>Get your Marilyn Manson CDs at the following eBay sites: 

>        

>  eBay USA eBay België/Belgique   

>  eBay UK eBay France   

>  eBay DE eBay Nederland   

>  eBay Canada eBay Australia   

>        

>Pogo didn't exactly leave on good terms with Manson. In August 2007, Side-Line 

>broke the news that Bier had filed a lawsuit against Manson for unpaid 

>'partnership proceeds'. Bier claimed that Manson spent the band's earnings on 

>'sick and disturbing purchases of Nazi memorabilia and taxidermy (including the 

>skeleton of a young Chinese girl)' and on various other luxurious items.

>

>In December 2007, Manson filed a counter suit against Bier, accusing him of 

>breach of contract. The lawsuit was settled for a sum far less than what was 

>originally sought by Bier, namely $175,000 instead of $380,000. The rest was 

>ordered to be paid by Stephen Bier's former Business Managers. 

>

>Quite an inspiring event for Bier's newest "Money is not our God" single.

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