[kj] Night Time v Hosannas
Dominico C
dominicoc at hotmail.com
Tue May 24 00:33:55 EDT 2011
Honestly, for me, Hossanas gets more air time, than I would play Night
Time.... I love Eighties, but that’s pretty much it... Yeah, the mix on
Hossanas SUCKS, but I always CRANK UP THE EQ! I bought most of the
remasters, but with the exceptions to Night Time, OTG, and BTATS... I do
still have my original Night Time on CD.... I prefer Fire Dances over Night
Time though, and of course the first three albums! Of course Democracy is
one of my favorites!!! Oh no... Hear come the forum trolls...
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Snap into a Slim Jim. RIP (Rheinhold Squeegee)
2. Re: Night Time v Hosannas (LONESTYLE at aol.com)
3. Re: Night Time v Hosannas (folk devil)
4. Re: Official KJ site updated with news: (Alex Smith)
5. Re: The real reason they wont be touring the USA.
(Paul Rangecroft)
6. Re: Official KJ site updated with news: (Steve Hackett)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 12:14:09 -0500
From: Rheinhold Squeegee <kjlist at live.com>
Subject: Re: [kj] Snap into a Slim Jim. RIP
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For those of you outside the US:
http://www.tmz.com/2011/05/20/randy-savage-car-accident-macho-man-dead-dies-died-killed-wwe-wrestler-florida/
> From: wessidetempest at hotmail.com
> Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 12:57:02 -0400
> To: gathering at misera.net
> Subject: [kj] Snap into a Slim Jim. RIP
>
> Forget all this Killing Joke nonsense. We just lost Randy Macho Man
> Savage.
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Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 13:15:26 -0400 (EDT)
From: LONESTYLE at aol.com
Subject: Re: [kj] Night Time v Hosannas
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Night Time: Good!
Hosannas: Bad!
Night Time: Excellent production!
Hosannas: Shity production that sounds it was recorded in a toilet at
times!
Night Time: Jaz sings!
Hosannas: Jaz yells!
Nuff said!
~ LB
In a message dated 5/20/2011 7:44:02 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
65snoopy at gmail.com writes:
I understand that Night Time is up there in the pantheon of classic KJ
releases
but 25 years (!) on the only songs I listen to on a regular basis are
Darkness Before Dawn,
Europe and LLB. I thought it was patchy at the time and have never changed
that view.
Hosannas is also patchy - and has a far more dodgy sound - but Invocation
and Judas Goat
are, for me, two of the finest songs the band have written in the last few
decades. I also like blasting
Walking with Gods and Lightbringer - in those edited versions (off some
single?) Or I just
get itunes to fade 'em out after 5 minutes...
So in listening terms its equal honours between the 2 records - even if my
nostalgic heart tells me
Night Time is way above Hosannas.
christ I'm a nerd
n
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Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 10:23:51 -0700
From: folk devil <folk.devil at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [kj] Night Time v Hosannas
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Night Time - Glossy production, very good recording work
Hosannas - terrible rushed recording (maybe there was a reason?), that kills
some good ideas that were not executed very well. Better recordings have
been done on an old fostex 4 track. I like rough edges, but not Hosannas.
From: LONESTYLE at aol.com
Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 13:15:26 -0400
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] Night Time v Hosannas
Night Time: Good!
Hosannas: Bad!
Night Time: Excellent production!
Hosannas: Shity production that sounds it was recorded in a toilet at times!
Night Time: Jaz sings!
Hosannas: Jaz yells!
Nuff said!
~ LB
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Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 13:27:18 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
From: Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [kj] Official KJ site updated with news:
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That's just whistleheaded horsehockey. Anyone who doesn't have ten gallons
of water-buffalo dung in their ears knows that NIGHTTIME shits all over
HOSANNAS from A GREAT, BROWN, SPLATTERY HEIGHT.
Alex in NYC
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>
>Sooo...you acknowledge defeat..... Hosannas > nightime
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>Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 2:08 PM
>Subject: Re: [kj] Official KJ site updated with news:
>
>
>
>Secondly, I'm fleetingly self-aware enough to realize that I'm a
>cranky bastard because I'm up too early and haven't had any breakfast.
>Apologies for my needless provocation and accompanying time/bandwidth-
>wasting.
>
>Alex in NYC
>
>
>On May 20, 2011, at 9:02 AM, Alexander Smith wrote:
>
>>
>> "I just shake my head at your retaliatory nature."
>>
>> You don't find that to be a pompous statement?
>>
>> LET'S DROP IT!!!
>>
>> Alex in NYC
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 20, 2011, at 8:54 AM, Nick Scott wrote:
>>
>>> I really don't think posting this initially was enough for you to
>>> think I was being retaliatory and pompous, try reading it again and
>>> explain how you seemed to get the wrong end of the stick?
>>>
>>> "Hopelessannas is just your opinion though, for one I don't think the
>>> (more dated than their early stuff) mid 80s synth pop Nighttime album
>>> is all that fantastic or varied, but we hear on here regularly how
>>> much you love it.
>>>
>>> Each to their own, personally I have far more time for "Hosannas" than
>>> say "Democracy", there again I am sure others would disagree."
>>>
>>> On 20 May 2011 13:48, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ....yet fail to recognize the equally retaliatory and pompous nature
>>>> of
>>>> your
>>>> own response.
>>>>
>>>> Alex in NYC
>>>>
>>>> On May 20, 2011, at 8:45 AM, Nick Scott wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I just shake my head at your retaliatory nature.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 20 May 2011 13:36, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It was merely a retort to your comment that you'd been lurking for
>>>>>> many
>>>>>> years with rarely posting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't think we need to continue this. I see your point that
>>>>>> there's
>>>>>> too
>>>>>> much crap and not enough meaty discussion here, but that's kinda the
>>>>>> nature
>>>>>> of the beast.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As far as HOSANNAS versus NIGHTTIME goes, it's a matter of opinion,
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> no
>>>>>> reason for us to get in a strop about. Neither of us are "wrong" for
>>>>>> liking
>>>>>> what we like. There is no end to that argument.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Again, though, if you feel a dissenting opinion, why not express it
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> add
>>>>>> to the conversation instead of lurking?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alex in NYC
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On May 20, 2011, at 8:27 AM, Nick Scott wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A lot more bloody confusing to work through, as I said, no column
>>>>>>> headings for distinct topics, no user interface, no moderation, no
>>>>>>> structure.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am not sure I understand your comment about winning something?
>>>>>>> What
>>>>>>> is the sarcasm aimed at?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 20 May 2011 13:21, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We're getting into semantics here, but regardless of terminology,
>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>> exactly is a email list *different* from an open forum?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've been on this list since about 1998 or 9. Do I win something?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Alex in NYC
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On May 20, 2011, at 8:18 AM, Nick Scott wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have been on this forum lurking for many years with rarely
>>>>>>>>> posting.
>>>>>>>>> To be honest, this does not work as a forum anyway, it is an
>>>>>>>>> email
>>>>>>>>> list, it would be better structured as topics on a forum on a
>>>>>>>>> proper
>>>>>>>>> website in my opinion.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Perhaps if there was structure, with column headings, topics etc,
>>>>>>>>> things on here wouldn't get as fragmented.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 20 May 2011 13:15, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I agree that an unwieldy portion of commentary here is entirely
>>>>>>>>>> flotsam,
>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>> I assure this was not always the case. By the same token, being
>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>> open
>>>>>>>>>> forum, its very nature encourages differing opinions. You would
>>>>>>>>>> prefer
>>>>>>>>>> maybe
>>>>>>>>>> to simply read press releases that all tow a singular party
>>>>>>>>>> line?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Alex in NYC
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On May 20, 2011, at 8:13 AM, Nick Scott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 90% of the comments on this so called "Gathering" forum is
>>>>>>>>>>> dross
>>>>>>>>>>> anyway, you either get trolls, thread spoilers or what I would
>>>>>>>>>>> term
>>>>>>>>>>> "aggressors". Perhaps it is because I am tired or reading
>>>>>>>>>>> bitching
>>>>>>>>>>> on here.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 20 May 2011 13:08, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If you fail to contribute, you rob yourself of the right to
>>>>>>>>>>>> bitch
>>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>> it,
>>>>>>>>>>>> then.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex in NYC
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 20, 2011, at 8:07 AM, Nick Scott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is hardly surprising I don't post much on here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 20 May 2011 13:04, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't believe I ever asserted that my opinion WAS the only
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> did, I'd appreciate it if you cited same before casting said
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aspersion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Moreover, it's not my fault that you don't contribute enough
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> re-establish
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the rich tapestry of varied opinions that the Gathering used
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> influx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insanity and ennui took over.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex in NYC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 20, 2011, at 8:02 AM, Nick Scott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I haven't started a debate before? Just saying. Length
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repetition only adds to the tension in songs on Hosannas in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opinion, like some of KJs early stuff, which is also built
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repetition. Yours is not the only opinion on here,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> surprisingly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enough.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 20 May 2011 12:58, Alexander Smith
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <vassifer at earthlink.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dated or not, at least NIGHTTIME has fully-fleshed out,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actual
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> songs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you really want to start this debate again?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex in NYC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 20, 2011, at 7:55 AM, Nick Scott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hopelessannas is just your opinion though, for one I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (more dated than their early stuff) mid 80s synth pop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nighttime
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> album
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is all that fantastic or varied, but we hear on here
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> regularly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much you love it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Each to their own, personally I have far more time for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Hosannas"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> say "Democracy", there again I am sure others would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disagree.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 20 May 2011 12:42, Alexander Smith
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <vassifer at earthlink.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, the Coles recognition is really the only silver
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lining
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Spinefarm unaware that the entire back catalog was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> already
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recently
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exhumed,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> remastered and re-released (well, apart from KJ03 and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HOPELESSANNAS)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex in NYC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 20, 2011, at 4:36 AM, Neil Perry wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Still, nice to see Colesy get a mention. Here's hoping
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gets
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To paraphrase Winston Churchill:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Killing Joke will always do the right thing - after
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exhausted
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all the alternatives."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> n
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 19 May 2011 23:26, Rheinhold Squeegee <kjlist at live.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.killingjoke.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WEBSITE COMING SOON
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> European Dates
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10 Jun Poland Warsaw Sonisphere Buy Tickets
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12 Jun Germany Leipzig Wave Gotik Treffen Buy Tickets
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 Jul Denmark Roskilde Festival Buy Tickets
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8 Jul UK Knebworth Sonisphere Buy Tickets
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 22 Jul Finland Helsinki Tuska Open Air Buy Tickets
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 31 Jul Holland Utrecht Summer Darknes Buy Tickets
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Killing Joke News
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Below we?ve got plenty of news for you from Killing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joke,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> open that box we?re really pleased to bring you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ?European
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Super
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> State?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> month, our new single available on CD, 12? coloured
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vinyl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> digital
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download. The formats of the new single are:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CD
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. ?European Super State? (edit)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. ?Kali Yuga?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. ?Ghosts Of Ladbroke Grove? (Dub Mix)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. ?European Super State? (Youth Remix)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5. ?European Super State? (Dub Remix)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6. ?European Super State? (Justin Broadrick Remix)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12? vinyl ? 290 numbered copies available exclusively
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.whatrecords.co.uk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. ?European Super State? (Youth Remix)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. ?European Super State? (Dub Remix)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. ?European Super State? (Justin Broadrick Remix)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. ?European Super State? (Clive Goddard Extended mix)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Digital Download
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. ?European Super State?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. ?European Super State? (Youth Remix)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. ?European Super State? (Justin Broadrick Remix)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. ?European Super State? (Clive Goddard extended mix)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At the start of the year we announced a deal with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Spinefarm/Universal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a brand new studio album, which we?ll announce details
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> summer.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We?re really excited to be back working with the label
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> put
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Absolute
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dissent, and we?re also glad to announce they?ll be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> control
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the back catalogue which we will be repackaging and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> improving
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> course of the next year.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It was great to see so many of you in London,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nottingham
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Manchester,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and at the Camden Crawl recently, for our big return to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> playing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> live
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the full original line-up. As you may know, Jaz retired
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Great
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Barrier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Island, Paul to New York, Geordie to Prague and Youth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andulucia,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the release of ?European Super State? we?re all very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> back
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> action
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> looking forward to a massive summer ahead. We?ll have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UK
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> festival
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to come soon as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We?ve also got something very special to announce for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fans
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Killing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joke live show. Following our show at the Royal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Festival
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hall,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accompanied by stunning visuals designed by Mr. Mike
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Coles,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> artistic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> genius and longtime Killing Joke collaborator, we can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> announce
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> performance will be released as the definitive Killing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joke
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> live
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> album.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fans
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will have many ways to get hold of a copy, the details
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we?ll
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> announce in early June.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The band are already working on the new album and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> preparations
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> underway for our European Tour starting in June which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> takes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> us
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> straight
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a full summer of festivals, taking in Roskilde and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sonisphere
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> name
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> few.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is however with great regret that Killing Joke have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forced
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cancel the upcoming US dates due to health issues
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> within
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> band.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hope
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be back to the States very soon and appreciate all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is going to be an incredible year for Killing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joke,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> look
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forward to the future, and seeing you all at our shows.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All the best, Killing Joke.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Written on May 19, 2011 at 1:58 pm, by admin
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 18:28:53 +0100
From: Paul Rangecroft <paul.rangecroft at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [kj] The real reason they wont be touring the USA.
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
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Geordie informed Benny. That doesn't mean the decision was his alone.
Since all the other members of the band have spoken the sickness implied
must be Jaz's, however it seems this is an excuse so the real reason must be
something else he has done.
A few have already expressed concerns re the European dates and I'm in
agreement with them. I won't be taking any gambles on this tour.
On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Simon Abinett
<louiecipher33 at hotmail.com>wrote:
> About as official as your going to get , no it's not speculation
>
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 14:49:01 +0100
> From: phil.tofield at virgin.net
> To: gathering at misera.net
> Subject: Re: [kj] The real reason they wont be touring the USA.
>
>
> has there actually been any official confirmation of this, or is it still
> speculation?
>
>
>
> the fact remains that it was our Lord Geordie who stopped the U.S dates
> not
> our prophet Jaz.
>
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Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 18:45:16 +0100
From: "Steve Hackett" <thepunisher at blueyonder.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [kj] Official KJ site updated with news:
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stop sitting on the fence!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alex Smith" <vassifer at earthlink.net>
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
<gathering at misera.net>; "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
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>
> That's just whistleheaded horsehockey. Anyone who doesn't have ten gallons
> of water-buffalo dung in their ears knows that NIGHTTIME shits all over
> HOSANNAS from A GREAT, BROWN, SPLATTERY HEIGHT.
>
> Alex in NYC
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: Steve Hackett <thepunisher at blueyonder.co.uk>
>>Sent: May 20, 2011 1:13 PM
>>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
>><gathering at misera.net>
>>Subject: Re: [kj] Official KJ site updated with news:
>>
>>Sooo...you acknowledge defeat..... Hosannas > nightime
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Alexander Smith" <vassifer at earthlink.net>
>>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"
>><gathering at misera.net>
>>Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 2:08 PM
>>Subject: Re: [kj] Official KJ site updated with news:
>>
>>
>>
>>Secondly, I'm fleetingly self-aware enough to realize that I'm a
>>cranky bastard because I'm up too early and haven't had any breakfast.
>>Apologies for my needless provocation and accompanying time/bandwidth-
>>wasting.
>>
>>Alex in NYC
>>
>>
>>On May 20, 2011, at 9:02 AM, Alexander Smith wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "I just shake my head at your retaliatory nature."
>>>
>>> You don't find that to be a pompous statement?
>>>
>>> LET'S DROP IT!!!
>>>
>>> Alex in NYC
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 20, 2011, at 8:54 AM, Nick Scott wrote:
>>>
>>>> I really don't think posting this initially was enough for you to
>>>> think I was being retaliatory and pompous, try reading it again and
>>>> explain how you seemed to get the wrong end of the stick?
>>>>
>>>> "Hopelessannas is just your opinion though, for one I don't think the
>>>> (more dated than their early stuff) mid 80s synth pop Nighttime album
>>>> is all that fantastic or varied, but we hear on here regularly how
>>>> much you love it.
>>>>
>>>> Each to their own, personally I have far more time for "Hosannas" than
>>>> say "Democracy", there again I am sure others would disagree."
>>>>
>>>> On 20 May 2011 13:48, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> ....yet fail to recognize the equally retaliatory and pompous nature
>>>>> of
>>>>> your
>>>>> own response.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alex in NYC
>>>>>
>>>>> On May 20, 2011, at 8:45 AM, Nick Scott wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I just shake my head at your retaliatory nature.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 20 May 2011 13:36, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It was merely a retort to your comment that you'd been lurking for
>>>>>>> many
>>>>>>> years with rarely posting.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't think we need to continue this. I see your point that
>>>>>>> there's
>>>>>>> too
>>>>>>> much crap and not enough meaty discussion here, but that's kinda
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> nature
>>>>>>> of the beast.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As far as HOSANNAS versus NIGHTTIME goes, it's a matter of opinion,
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>> reason for us to get in a strop about. Neither of us are "wrong"
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> liking
>>>>>>> what we like. There is no end to that argument.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Again, though, if you feel a dissenting opinion, why not express it
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> add
>>>>>>> to the conversation instead of lurking?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alex in NYC
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On May 20, 2011, at 8:27 AM, Nick Scott wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A lot more bloody confusing to work through, as I said, no column
>>>>>>>> headings for distinct topics, no user interface, no moderation, no
>>>>>>>> structure.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am not sure I understand your comment about winning something?
>>>>>>>> What
>>>>>>>> is the sarcasm aimed at?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 20 May 2011 13:21, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We're getting into semantics here, but regardless of terminology,
>>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>> exactly is a email list *different* from an open forum?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've been on this list since about 1998 or 9. Do I win something?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Alex in NYC
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On May 20, 2011, at 8:18 AM, Nick Scott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have been on this forum lurking for many years with rarely
>>>>>>>>>> posting.
>>>>>>>>>> To be honest, this does not work as a forum anyway, it is an
>>>>>>>>>> email
>>>>>>>>>> list, it would be better structured as topics on a forum on a
>>>>>>>>>> proper
>>>>>>>>>> website in my opinion.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps if there was structure, with column headings, topics
>>>>>>>>>> etc,
>>>>>>>>>> things on here wouldn't get as fragmented.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 20 May 2011 13:15, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I agree that an unwieldy portion of commentary here is entirely
>>>>>>>>>>> flotsam,
>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>> I assure this was not always the case. By the same token, being
>>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>> open
>>>>>>>>>>> forum, its very nature encourages differing opinions. You would
>>>>>>>>>>> prefer
>>>>>>>>>>> maybe
>>>>>>>>>>> to simply read press releases that all tow a singular party
>>>>>>>>>>> line?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Alex in NYC
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On May 20, 2011, at 8:13 AM, Nick Scott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 90% of the comments on this so called "Gathering" forum is
>>>>>>>>>>>> dross
>>>>>>>>>>>> anyway, you either get trolls, thread spoilers or what I would
>>>>>>>>>>>> term
>>>>>>>>>>>> "aggressors". Perhaps it is because I am tired or reading
>>>>>>>>>>>> bitching
>>>>>>>>>>>> on here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 20 May 2011 13:08, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you fail to contribute, you rob yourself of the right to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> bitch
>>>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> then.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex in NYC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 20, 2011, at 8:07 AM, Nick Scott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is hardly surprising I don't post much on here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 20 May 2011 13:04, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't believe I ever asserted that my opinion WAS the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> did, I'd appreciate it if you cited same before casting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> said
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aspersion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Moreover, it's not my fault that you don't contribute
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enough
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> re-establish
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the rich tapestry of varied opinions that the Gathering
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> used
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> influx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insanity and ennui took over.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex in NYC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 20, 2011, at 8:02 AM, Nick Scott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I haven't started a debate before? Just saying. Length
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repetition only adds to the tension in songs on Hosannas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opinion, like some of KJs early stuff, which is also built
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repetition. Yours is not the only opinion on here,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> surprisingly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enough.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 20 May 2011 12:58, Alexander Smith
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <vassifer at earthlink.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dated or not, at least NIGHTTIME has fully-fleshed out,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actual
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> songs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you really want to start this debate again?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex in NYC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 20, 2011, at 7:55 AM, Nick Scott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hopelessannas is just your opinion though, for one I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (more dated than their early stuff) mid 80s synth pop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nighttime
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> album
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is all that fantastic or varied, but we hear on here
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> regularly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much you love it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Each to their own, personally I have far more time for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Hosannas"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> say "Democracy", there again I am sure others would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disagree.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 20 May 2011 12:42, Alexander Smith
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <vassifer at earthlink.net
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, the Coles recognition is really the only silver
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lining
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Spinefarm unaware that the entire back catalog was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> already
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recently
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exhumed,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> remastered and re-released (well, apart from KJ03 and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HOPELESSANNAS)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex in NYC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 20, 2011, at 4:36 AM, Neil Perry wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Still, nice to see Colesy get a mention. Here's hoping
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gets
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To paraphrase Winston Churchill:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Killing Joke will always do the right thing - after
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exhausted
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all the alternatives."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> n
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 19 May 2011 23:26, Rheinhold Squeegee
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <kjlist at live.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.killingjoke.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WEBSITE COMING SOON
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> European Dates
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10 Jun Poland Warsaw Sonisphere Buy Tickets
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12 Jun Germany Leipzig Wave Gotik Treffen Buy Tickets
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 Jul Denmark Roskilde Festival Buy Tickets
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8 Jul UK Knebworth Sonisphere Buy Tickets
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 22 Jul Finland Helsinki Tuska Open Air Buy Tickets
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 31 Jul Holland Utrecht Summer Darknes Buy Tickets
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Killing Joke News
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Below we?ve got plenty of news for you from Killing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joke,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> open that box we?re really pleased to bring you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ?European
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Super
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> State?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> month, our new single available on CD, 12? coloured
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vinyl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> digital
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download. The formats of the new single are:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CD
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. ?European Super State? (edit)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. ?Kali Yuga?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. ?Ghosts Of Ladbroke Grove? (Dub Mix)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. ?European Super State? (Youth Remix)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5. ?European Super State? (Dub Remix)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6. ?European Super State? (Justin Broadrick Remix)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12? vinyl ? 290 numbered copies available exclusively
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.whatrecords.co.uk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. ?European Super State? (Youth Remix)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. ?European Super State? (Dub Remix)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. ?European Super State? (Justin Broadrick Remix)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. ?European Super State? (Clive Goddard Extended mix)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Digital Download
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. ?European Super State?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. ?European Super State? (Youth Remix)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. ?European Super State? (Justin Broadrick Remix)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. ?European Super State? (Clive Goddard extended mix)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At the start of the year we announced a deal with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Spinefarm/Universal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a brand new studio album, which we?ll announce details
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> summer.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We?re really excited to be back working with the label
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> put
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Absolute
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dissent, and we?re also glad to announce they?ll be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> control
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the back catalogue which we will be repackaging and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> improving
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> course of the next year.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It was great to see so many of you in London,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nottingham
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Manchester,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and at the Camden Crawl recently, for our big return
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> playing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> live
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the full original line-up. As you may know, Jaz
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> retired
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Great
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Barrier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Island, Paul to New York, Geordie to Prague and Youth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andulucia,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the release of ?European Super State? we?re all very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> back
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> action
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> looking forward to a massive summer ahead. We?ll have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UK
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> festival
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to come soon as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We?ve also got something very special to announce for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fans
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Killing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joke live show. Following our show at the Royal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Festival
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hall,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accompanied by stunning visuals designed by Mr. Mike
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Coles,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> artistic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> genius and longtime Killing Joke collaborator, we can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> announce
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> performance will be released as the definitive Killing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joke
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> live
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> album.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fans
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will have many ways to get hold of a copy, the details
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we?ll
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> announce in early June.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The band are already working on the new album and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> preparations
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> underway for our European Tour starting in June which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> takes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> us
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> straight
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a full summer of festivals, taking in Roskilde and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sonisphere
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> name
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> few.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is however with great regret that Killing Joke have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forced
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cancel the upcoming US dates due to health issues
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> within
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> band.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hope
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be back to the States very soon and appreciate all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is going to be an incredible year for Killing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joke,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> look
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forward to the future, and seeing you all at our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shows.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All the best, Killing Joke.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Written on May 19, 2011 at 1:58 pm, by admin
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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