[kj] London 16/9/12, early KJ show

[Rob Moss]

This whole line up is pure hell.

 I can't think of three bigger tossers to be in a room with than Astbury Hussey and Coleman!

 Good luck to anyone parting with any cash for it!



----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Harper
Sent: 06/21/12 02:34 PM
To: A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)
Subject: Re: [kj] London 16/9/12, early KJ show

I see your point about record sales, but I'm not sure it's as clear-cut as that, even from a purely mercenary, accountant's-eye-view. Despite both being huge in the 1980s, neither the Mission and the Cult have released an album worth hearing since December 31st 1989. I know that's subjective, but whereas Killing Joke have received a majority of favourable reviews for every album since Pandemonium, the others haven't. Outside of the 'gothic' media, the Mission's albums haven't been even mentioned- let alone actually reviewed- since Masque. It's slightly better for the Cult, admittedly. Whereas Jaz (and to a lesser extent the others) turns up in almost every big music mag (in particular Kerrang, Metal Hammer and RockSound) whenever they're working on an album, I think I've only seen one feature with Astbury and Duffy in God knows how many years (there was one in Classic Rock). I know I haven't seen Wayne Hussey interviewed since 1994. The Mission and the Cult crop up in frequent compilations of their earlier stuff, but even smaller stores usually stock Killing Joke's latest album.

Obviously I'm talking about the UK here, I know it's different in the US. People go to see the Mission and the Cult for their hits. 75% of the audience wouldn't shed a tear if both bands never played anything less than 22 years old. The kids I see at Joke gigs go nuts for Asteroid or This World Hell or Depthcharge, songs from the then most-recent album, as well as the 'classics'. Even speaking only financially, that's got to be important.

Jim.

From: Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Wednesday, 20 June 2012, 13:25
Subject: Re: [kj] London 16/9/12, early KJ show

 With all due respect, Robert, that's now how promoters operate. Bills are invariably organized over box-office draw. The cold, truth of the matter is the Cult and the Mish -- while both admitted acolytes of the Joke -- have sold piles more records than them. Thus, they headline.

 Alex in NYC

 On Jun 19, 2012, at 5:23 PM, robert best wrote:

In 1986 KJ headlined at the Reading Festival and The Mission supported. The Cult were influenced by the Joke, so the promoters should have put KJ on the top of the bill for this September!_______________________________________________
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