[kj] London 16/9/12, early KJ show

[Nick Scott]

Hard then to believe that Ian McCulloch, Julian Cope and Pete Wylie
were in a band together, "The Crucial Three"...there again that only
lasted one month..three egotistical cnuts.

On 21 June 2012 15:25, Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com> wrote:

> This whole line up is pure hell.

>

> I can't think of three bigger tossers to be in a room with than Astbury

> Hussey and Coleman!

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> Good luck to anyone parting with any cash for it!

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> ----- Original Message -----

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> From: Jim Harper

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> Sent: 06/21/12 02:34 PM

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> To: A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)

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> Subject: Re: [kj] London 16/9/12, early KJ show

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> I see your point about record sales, but I'm not sure it's as clear-cut as

> that, even from a purely mercenary, accountant's-eye-view. Despite both

> being huge in the 1980s, neither the Mission and the Cult have released an

> album worth hearing since December 31st 1989. I know that's subjective, but

> whereas Killing Joke have received a majority of favourable reviews for

> every album since Pandemonium, the others haven't. Outside of the 'gothic'

> media, the Mission's albums haven't been even mentioned- let alone actually

> reviewed- since Masque. It's slightly better for the Cult, admittedly.

> Whereas Jaz (and to a lesser extent the others) turns up in almost every big

> music mag (in particular Kerrang, Metal Hammer and RockSound) whenever

> they're working on an album, I think I've only seen one feature with Astbury

> and Duffy in God knows how many years (there was one in Classic Rock). I

> know I haven't seen Wayne Hussey interviewed since 1994. The Mission and the

> Cult crop up in frequent compilations of their earlier stuff, but even

> smaller stores usually stock Killing Joke's latest album.

>

> Obviously I'm talking about the UK here, I know it's different in the US.

> People go to see the Mission and the Cult for their hits. 75% of the

> audience wouldn't shed a tear if both bands never played anything less than

> 22 years old. The kids I see at Joke gigs go nuts for Asteroid or This World

> Hell or Depthcharge, songs from the then most-recent album, as well as the

> 'classics'. Even speaking only financially, that's got to be important.

>

> Jim.

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> From: Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>

> Sent: Wednesday, 20 June 2012, 13:25

> Subject: Re: [kj] London 16/9/12, early KJ show

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> With all due respect, Robert, that's now how promoters operate. Bills are

> invariably organized over box-office draw. The cold, truth of the matter is

> the Cult and the Mish -- while both admitted acolytes of the Joke -- have

> sold piles more records than them. Thus, they  headline.

>

> Alex in NYC

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> On Jun 19, 2012, at 5:23 PM, robert best wrote:

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> In 1986 KJ headlined at the Reading Festival and The Mission supported. The

> Cult were influenced by the Joke, so the promoters should have put KJ on the

> top of the bill for this September!

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