[kj] SWANS touring in October

[Alexander Smith]

Larkin Grimm is an insidious opportunist who pulled a comparable stunt with a former band member. Gira is no saint, but he's been stitched up here, if you ask me. 

Alex in NYC. 

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> On Apr 7, 2016, at 10:07 PM, wessidetempest . <wessidetempest at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I'm torn. I'm a large admirer of Swans and Gira (and several others) involved. 
> 
> But the whole act, response outcome etc of rape is extremely sensitive, difficult situation. 
> 
> Now there seems to be another accusation from her on a band mate. Which he denies. 
> 
> What is worse is that no matter what the outcome is it will be tragic, twisted and destructive. Even in vindication it is still tragic. 
> 
> On Apr 7, 2016, at 4:51 PM, Steve Hackett <thepunisher at blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> 
>> Has he been found guilty then? Sounds like it..
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 7 Apr 2016, at 21:38, Paul Owens <powens at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I've seen Swans a couple of times in the last few years and they've been incredible but the whole Gira-raping-a-protégé thing has put me off them. I think the fact that Thor and Norman et al are sticking with him says a lot about Gira as a man but I think I need a bit of time to sort out how I feel about him.
>>> 
>>>> On Thu, 7 Apr 2016 at 21:25 kevin <patrickvieira at msn.com> wrote:
>>>> Some of you may be interested to know that Swans are playing the UK this October-likely the final tour with the current line up- 2 dates at the Islington Assembly hall  which is a little venue so should be a stormer-check SeeTickets. (plus Brighton and oop north)
>>>> 
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>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNFGXXZzEhU
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