[kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 168, Issue 29
Jim Harper
jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk
Sun Jan 29 13:14:10 EST 2017
Speaking as an outside observer who doesn't think Trump or Clinton is well-suited to the position of president here.
As far as US intervention goes, we'll have to see. Gung-ho and confrontational people have difficulty restraining themselves sometimes. I don't know if presidential authority was needed for the recent raids in Yemen (it might not have been). Either way, I don't know anyone who has changed their opinion on US intervention just because it's Trump.
I'm still not entirely sure what the 'MSM' is. I did figure out some years ago that there isn't a single news source in the world that doesn't have vested interests. The fact that it appears to agree with what the reader thinks is not evidence of either impartiality or accuracy.
If there was an "anti-Trump smear campaign", then it was matched blow-for-blow by the opposition. I don't see the difference between statements about Trump sexual practices and statements about Clinton drug use.
You could say that Trump's election was revolutionary in political terms. You could say that one of the wealthiest men in the country controlling the flow of political events was nothing but the same old, same old.
As I said before, I really don't know how Trump's presidency will go or what state the world will be in when he leaves office. I still have concerns about his lack of political experience and his (apparent) tendency to reduce situations to black-and-white equations. So, I will wait and see.
Jim.
On Sun, 29/1/17, kevin <patrickvieira at msn.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 168, Issue 29
To: "gathering at misera.net" <gathering at misera.net>
Date: Sunday, 29 January, 2017, 17:26
He is I pray going to scale back U.S intervention
overseas Alex- something virtually everyone has
been
banging on about for years -but for some reason now
they find it unacceptable because its Trump.
This election also basically revealed that the MSM is
completely losing its grip on peoples perceptions of
reality
which I have found incredibly exciting. Even if a
monkey who could count had taken a couple of hours to
observe what was going on via the internet from July
to November 8 it would have been able to see that
the only way Hillary was going to win was by stealing
it. Mainstream media is going down. Its been happening for
a while but now its happening fast.
There has been a god knows how long smear campaign across
the board worthy of Goebbels and he still won. They brought
out everything they have to throw against him and people
still saw through it. I find that really exciting. I
find it hilarious that all
these plastic off the peg anarchists running around and
smashing shit up because of Trump when he is probably the
most anarchic thing to have happened in
western politics ever.
I mean come on, what a fucking joke , anarchists telling
me that Trump shouldn't be president because he `isn`t a
politician.`
You just got rid of a president who had weekly kill
meetings, who said he was `good at killing people` and
said `I can do anything I want- I`m the president` and you
would have got that with knobs on if Hillary had got
in. We have missed a serious bullet
IMHO
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Still doesn?t explain why a Trump win would ?overjoy? you.
Hold up, though ? to your point, Jaz has a CELLPHONE?
Alex in NYC
> On Jan 29, 2017, at 2:14 AM, kevin
<patrickvieira at msn.com> wrote:
>
> Mike like I said BPF put up an anti Trump piece by John
Pilger on his FB.
> There was an interview with Jaz in Finland I think it
was , backstage in a grotty looking dressing room
> where he was checking messages on his PHONE(!!!!!) and
he stated he was probably more relieved
> that Hillary didn`t get in as opposed to Trump. Don`t
shoot the messenger-it was on one of those
> KJ fan FB pages.
> I havent got any connections to the far right that I
know of- but I do look at the Sport and Money pages
> on the Daily Mail website quite often so I suppose that
does qualiify me in some peoples eyes
>
>
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> Kevin I would love to know what Breibart has been spot
on with? It's been
> demonised because of its connections with the far right
and the KKK? I am
> hoping you are not connected to either! There are
lots of unbiased articles
> about TTIP you could look at or are you just used to
going to Breibart
> liking what you read and then going with that?
>
>
>
> TTIP would be right up Trumps street given his own
global brands a good
> example because his option to a windfarm 3 miles off
the coast of Scotland
> because it might spoil the view from his golf
course? Never mind the clean
> energy if will supply to the people who actually live
in Scotland. TTIP
> would allow him to challenge and beat legislation of
the Scottish Parliament
> despite the fact the the fat stupid c..t lives in
America. The bloke is
> disgusting, stop reading Breibart coz it is clearly
messing with your head.
>
>
>
> I still want to know where Jaz, Big Paul etc. said what
you posted yesterday
> coz it contradicted everything I have seen them say.
>
>
>
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> I just trawl alternative media Alex.
>
> Breitbart has been spot on with a lot of things.
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> But of course it has been demonsed so i`m not supposed
to look at it.
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> > On Jan 28, 2017, at 10:01 AM, kevin
<patrickvieira at msn.com <mailto:patrickvieira at msn.com>>
wrote:
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http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador-
<http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador->
> ttip-dead/
> <
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<http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador>
> -ttip-dead/>
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> -ttip-dead/> Trump's Prospective EU Ambassador:
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>
> www.breitbart.com <http://www.breitbart.com/>
>
> The economist and academic hotly tipped to be President
Trump's ambassador
> to the European Union told the Breitbart News Daily
Show that "TTIP is a non
> starter" and won't progress under the Trump
administration.
>
>
>
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> -ttip-dead/> Trump's Prospective EU Ambassador:
TTIP is Dead
>
> www.breitbart.com <http://www.breitbart.com/>
>
> The economist and academic hotly tipped to be President
Trump's ambassador
> to the European Union told the Breitbart News Daily
Show that "TTIP is a non
> starter" and won't progress under the Trump
administration.
>
>
> >
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> -ttip-dead/> Trump's Prospective EU Ambassador:
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>
> www.breitbart.com <http://www.breitbart.com/>
>
> The economist and academic hotly tipped to be President
Trump's ambassador
> to the European Union told the Breitbart News Daily
Show that "TTIP is a non
> starter" and won't progress under the Trump
administration.
>
>
> > Trump's Prospective EU Ambassador: TTIP is
Dead
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> -ttip-dead/> Trump's Prospective EU Ambassador:
TTIP is Dead
>
> www.breitbart.com <http://www.breitbart.com/>
>
> The economist and academic hotly tipped to be President
Trump's ambassador
> to the European Union told the Breitbart News Daily
Show that "TTIP is a non
> starter" and won't progress under the Trump
administration.
>
>
> > www.breitbart.com <http://www.breitbart.com/>
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> > The economist and academic hotly tipped to be
President Trump's ambassador
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Show that "TTIP is a non
> starter" and won't progress under the Trump
administration.
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Jan 28, 2017, at 9:02 AM, kevin
<patrickvieira at msn.com <mailto:patrickvieira at msn.com>
> <mailto:patrickvieira at msn.com
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> > > That`s why I made a differentation and said
`presumably dying.`
> > > So lets wait and see what happens with the
TIPP.
> > > As for talking crap. Well on the day that I
walk past a TV and SKY news
> are
> > > reporting on `what this spraying programme
is` and `why the public
> shouldn`t be alarmed` I`ll get
> > > back to you on that.
> > >
> > > Alex- me typing 3 days worth of wall
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> > > To: "'A list about all things
Killing Joke \(the band!\)'"
> >
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> > > Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 168,
Issue 15
> > > Message-ID:
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> > > Aren't TTIP and TPP completely different
things? I thought the former
> was
> > > concerning the deals for corporations and
government which Trump The C.
> > > would almost certainly support and the latter
a trade deal with pacific
> > > nations which he has ended.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Oh and by the way Kev you're talking
crap.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Gathering [
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> > > Sent: 27 January 2017 06:57
> > > To: gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
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> > > Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 168,
Issue 15
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I`m happy Trump got in. Fucking overjoyed
actually.
> > >
> > > Seem to recall there was a post on here
around August from someone in
> the UK
> > > I think
> > >
> > > declaring he didn`t have a prayer. Mmmm.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I think Jaz mentioned he was more relieved
that Hillary didn`t get in
> but he
> > > seems to change his views like the weather on
these things.
> > >
> > > He seemed to be really revelling in teasing
the UK audiences about `How
> is
> > > your Brexit going?` etc but I also heard he
was `50/50` on that
> > >
> > > (strange for someone who seems to jump on
people for being `fence
> sitters.`)
> > >
> > > Jaz ws very outspoken on TIPP so now Trump
has killed TPP I`m sure he is
> > > revelling in that presumably dying..
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I don`t think BPF likes him but can`t speak
for others. He put up a John
> > > Pilger piece which was very anti Trump during
the election..
> > >
> > > Geordie no idea but a big supporter of EU so
I hear.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Youth I assume is wearing a Pink Pussy hat
and waving a placard with a
> > > crying polar bear on it or something...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Message: 3
> > > Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 20:25:03 -0500
> > > From: Alexander Smith
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> > > To: "A list about all things Killing
Joke (the band!)"
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> > > Subject: [kj] Killing Joke in the Age of
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> > > At the risk of possibly re-igniting the
surreally hostile thread I
> > > participated in back in November (wherein
certain member of our
> estimable
> > > collective got a bit combative on the subject
of the election to the
> point
> > > where I actually left the fold for a bit),
I?m wondering how everyone?s
> > > feeling only six days into the era of Trump
as President.
> > >
> > > My feelings haven?t changed. I still believe
it was an incalculable
> mistake.
> > >
> > > But what about you?
> > >
> > > More relevant to this list ? where are
Messrs. Coleman, Walker, Glover
> and
> > > Ferguson? I know Youth has weighed in
periodically on FB about Trump
> (he,
> > > unsurprisingly, does not appear to be a
acolyte), but I?m positively
> gagging
> > > to hear what Jaz and BPF have to say about
him.
> > >
> > > Anyway, let?s hear your thoughts. I promise
not to swan off like jilted
> prom
> > > queen. I?m just wondering what this largely
Euro-centric (right?) group
> of
> > > folks have to say at this point.
> > >
> > > The mood here in NYC, suffice to say, is not
positive.
> > >
> > > Cheers, you fuckers.
> > >
> > > Alex in NYC.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > > Gathering -- A list about all things Killing
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> > > Message: 2
> > > Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 21:01:25 +0000
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> > > From: Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk
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> > > To: "A list about all things Killing
Joke \(the band!\)"
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> > > Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 168,
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> > > You are correct Mike. The TIPP involves only
the US and the EU. It's a
> separate beast entirely.
> > >
> > > Jim.
> > >
> > > On Fri, 27/1/17, Mike Cooper
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> > >
> > > Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol
168, Issue 15
> > > To: "'A list about all things
Killing Joke (the band!)'"
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> > > Date: Friday, 27 January, 2017, 20:27
> > >
> > >
> > > Aren?t TTIP and TPP completely
> > > different things?? I thought the former
was concerning the
> > > deals for corporations and government
which Trump The C?
> > > would almost certainly support and the
latter a trade deal
> > > with pacific nations which he has
ended. ?Oh and by the way Kev you?re
> > > talking crap. ?From: Gathering
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> > > kevin
> > > Sent: 27 January 2017
> > > 06:57
> > > To: gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
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> > > Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest,
Vol
> > > 168, Issue 15 ?I`m happy Trump got in.
Fucking
> > > overjoyed actually.Seem to recall there
was a post on
> > > here around August from someone in the
UK I think
> > > declaring he didn`t have a prayer.
> > > Mmmm.
> > > ?I think Jaz
> > > mentioned he was more relieved that
Hillary didn`t get in
> > > but he seems to change his views like
the weather on these
> > > things.He seemed to be really
revelling
> > > in teasing the UK audiences about `How
is your Brexit
> > > going?` etc but I also heard he was
`50/50` on
> > > that(strange for someone who seems to
> > > jump on people for being `fence
sitters.`)Jaz
> > > ws very outspoken on TIPP so now Trump
has killed TPP I`m
> > > sure he is revelling in that presumably
dying.. ?I don`t think BPF
> likes him but
> > > can`t speak for others. He put up a
John Pilger piece which
> > > was very anti Trump during the
election..Geordie no idea but a big
> > > supporter of EU so I hear. ?Youth I
assume is wearing a Pink
> > > Pussy hat and waving a placard with a
crying polar bear on
> > > it or something... ?
> > > ?
> > >
> > > Message: 3
> > > Date: Thu, 26 Jan
> > > 2017 20:25:03 -0500
> > > From: Alexander Smith
> > > <vassifer at earthlink.net <mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net>
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> > > To: "A list about all things
Killing Joke
> > > (the band!)"
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> > > Subject: [kj] Killing Joke in the Age
of
> > > Trump
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> > > At the risk of possibly
> > > re-igniting the surreally hostile
thread I participated in
> > > back in November (wherein certain
member of our estimable
> > > collective got a bit combative on the
subject of the
> > > election to the point where I actually
left the fold for a
> > > bit), I?m wondering how everyone?s
feeling only six days
> > > into the era of Trump as President.
> > >
> > > My feelings haven?t changed. I still
believe it
> > > was an incalculable mistake.
> > >
> > > But what about you?
> > >
> > > More relevant to this list ? where are
Messrs.
> > > Coleman, Walker, Glover and Ferguson? I
know Youth has
> > > weighed in periodically on FB about
Trump (he,
> > > unsurprisingly, does not appear to be a
acolyte), but I?m
> > > positively gagging to hear what Jaz and
BPF have to say
> > > about him.
> > >
> > > Anyway, let?s
> > > hear your thoughts. I promise not to
swan off like jilted
> > > prom queen. I?m just wondering what
this largely
> > > Euro-centric (right?) group of folks
have to say at this
> > > point.
> > >
> > > The mood here in
> > > NYC, suffice to say, is not positive.
> > >
> > > Cheers, you fuckers.
> > >
> > > Alex in NYC.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > > Subject: Digest Footer
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> > > Message: 3
> > > Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 21:43:47 +0000
> > > From: Richard Hopkins
<ratclimber at gmail.com <mailto:ratclimber at gmail.com>
> <mailto:ratclimber at gmail.com
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> > > To: Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk
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> <mailto:jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk <mailto:jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk>>
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> <mailto:jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk <mailto:jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk>>>>,
"A list about all things
> >
> Killing
Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
> <mailto:gathering at misera.net
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> > > Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 168,
Issue 15
> > > Message-ID:
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> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> > >
> > > You guys and you're alternative
facts....Sad!
> > >
> > > (?)
> > >
> > > On 27 January 2017, at 21:01, Jim Harper via
Gathering
> <gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
> <mailto:gathering at misera.net
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> <mailto:gathering at misera.net
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wrote:
> > >
> > > You are correct Mike. The TIPP involves only
the US and the EU. It's a
> separate beast entirely.
> > >
> > > Jim.
> > >
> > > On Fri, 27/1/17, Mike Cooper
<mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk <mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk>
> <mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk <mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk>>
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> <mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk <mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk>>>>
wrote:
> > >
> > > Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol
168, Issue 15
> > > To: "'A list about all things
Killing Joke (the band!)'"
> <gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
> <mailto:gathering at misera.net
<mailto:gathering at misera.net>><mailto:gathering at misera.net
<mailto:gathering at misera.net>
> <mailto:gathering at misera.net
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> > > Date: Friday, 27 January, 2017, 20:27
> > >
> > >
> > > Aren?t TTIP and TPP completely
> > > different things?? I thought the former
was concerning the
> > > deals for corporations and government
which Trump The C?
> > > would almost certainly support and the
latter a trade deal
> > > with pacific nations which he has
ended. ?Oh and by the way Kev you?re
> > > talking crap. ?From: Gathering
> > > [
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On Behalf Of
> > > kevin
> > > Sent: 27 January 2017
> > > 06:57
> > > To: gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
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> <
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> > > Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest,
Vol
> > > 168, Issue 15 ?I`m happy Trump got in.
Fucking
> > > overjoyed actually.Seem to recall there
was a post on
> > > here around August from someone in the
UK I think
> > > declaring he didn`t have a prayer.
> > > Mmmm.
> > > ?I think Jaz
> > > mentioned he was more relieved that
Hillary didn`t get in
> > > but he seems to change his views like
the weather on these
> > > things.He seemed to be really
revelling
> > > in teasing the UK audiences about `How
is your Brexit
> > > going?` etc but I also heard he was
`50/50` on
> > > that(strange for someone who seems to
> > > jump on people for being `fence
sitters.`)Jaz
> > > ws very outspoken on TIPP so now Trump
has killed TPP I`m
> > > sure he is revelling in that presumably
dying.. ?I don`t think BPF
> likes him but
> > > can`t speak for others. He put up a
John Pilger piece which
> > > was very anti Trump during the
election..Geordie no idea but a big
> > > supporter of EU so I hear. ?Youth I
assume is wearing a Pink
> > > Pussy hat and waving a placard with a
crying polar bear on
> > > it or something... ?
> > > ?
> > >
> > > Message: 3
> > > Date: Thu, 26 Jan
> > > 2017 20:25:03 -0500
> > > From: Alexander Smith
> > > <vassifer at earthlink.net <mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net>
<mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net
<mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net>>
> <
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> > > To: "A list about all things
Killing Joke
> > > (the band!)"
> > > ??????? <gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
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> <
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> > > Subject: [kj] Killing Joke in the Age
of
> > > Trump
> > > Message-ID:
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> > >
> > > At the risk of possibly
> > > re-igniting the surreally hostile
thread I participated in
> > > back in November (wherein certain
member of our estimable
> > > collective got a bit combative on the
subject of the
> > > election to the point where I actually
left the fold for a
> > > bit), I?m wondering how everyone?s
feeling only six days
> > > into the era of Trump as President.
> > >
> > > My feelings haven?t changed. I still
believe it
> > > was an incalculable mistake.
> > >
> > > But what about you?
> > >
> > > More relevant to this list ? where are
Messrs.
> > > Coleman, Walker, Glover and Ferguson? I
know Youth has
> > > weighed in periodically on FB about
Trump (he,
> > > unsurprisingly, does not appear to be a
acolyte), but I?m
> > > positively gagging to hear what Jaz and
BPF have to say
> > > about him.
> > >
> > > Anyway, let?s
> > > hear your thoughts. I promise not to
swan off like jilted
> > > prom queen. I?m just wondering what
this largely
> > > Euro-centric (right?) group of folks
have to say at this
> > > point.
> > >
> > > The mood here in
> > > NYC, suffice to say, is not positive.
> > >
> > > Cheers, you fuckers.
> > >
> > > Alex in NYC.
> > >
> > >
> > >
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