[kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 168, Issue 29

Alexander Smith vassifer at earthlink.net
Sun Jan 29 16:07:51 EST 2017 

“MSM” is essentially a pejorative truncation of “mainstream media,” which I basically worked for for the majority of my professional career (not anymore, however).

Maybe I take it for granted having grown up in NYC, but Donald Trump is, always has been and always will be a compete idiot. He’s a myopic, self-obsessed, incurious, pathologically dishonest imbecile. 

I understand certain folks suggesting that Washington needed a “reset,” but Donald Trump is not it. 

The analogy I’ve used is that sending Trump to the White House is like sticking a lit firecracker into a broken toaster. Will it shake things up? Absolutely. Will it fix anything? Not a fucking chance.

Take a look at his first week in office alone for the evidence of same.

He’s the biggest mistake in American history.

Alex in NYC




> On Jan 29, 2017, at 1:14 PM, Jim Harper via Gathering <gathering at misera.net> wrote:
> 
> Speaking as an outside observer who doesn't think Trump or Clinton is well-suited to the position of president here.
> 
> As far as US intervention goes, we'll have to see. Gung-ho and confrontational people have difficulty restraining themselves sometimes. I don't know if presidential authority was needed for the recent raids in Yemen (it might not have been). Either way, I don't know anyone who has changed their opinion on US intervention just because it's Trump.
> 
> I'm still not entirely sure what the 'MSM' is. I did figure out some years ago that there isn't a single news source in the world that doesn't have vested interests. The fact that it appears to agree with what the reader thinks is not evidence of either impartiality or accuracy.
> 
> If there was an "anti-Trump smear campaign", then it was matched blow-for-blow by the opposition. I don't see the difference between statements about Trump sexual practices and statements about Clinton drug use.
> 
> You could say that Trump's election was revolutionary in political terms. You could say that one of the wealthiest men in the country controlling the flow of political events was nothing but the same old, same old.
> 
> As I said before, I really don't know how Trump's presidency will go or what state the world will be in when he leaves office. I still have concerns about his lack of political experience and his (apparent) tendency to reduce situations to black-and-white equations. So, I will wait and see.
> 
> Jim.
> 
> On Sun, 29/1/17, kevin <patrickvieira at msn.com> wrote:
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> Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 168, Issue 29
> To: "gathering at misera.net" <gathering at misera.net>
> Date: Sunday, 29 January, 2017, 17:26
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> He is I pray going to scale back U.S intervention
> overseas Alex- something virtually everyone has
> been
>  banging on about for years -but for some reason now
> they find it unacceptable because its Trump.
> This election also basically revealed that the MSM is
> completely losing its grip on peoples perceptions of
> reality
> which I have found incredibly exciting. Even if a
> monkey who could count had taken a couple of hours to
> observe what was going on via the internet from July
> to November 8  it would have been able to see that
> the only way Hillary was going to win was by stealing
>  it. Mainstream media is going down. Its been happening for
> a while but now its happening fast.   
> 
> There has been a god knows how long smear campaign across
> the board worthy of Goebbels and he still won. They brought
> out everything they have to throw against him and people
> still saw through it. I find that really exciting. I
> find it hilarious that all
>  these plastic off the peg anarchists running around and
> smashing shit up because of Trump when he is probably the
> most anarchic thing to have happened in
> western politics ever. 
> I mean come on, what a fucking joke , anarchists telling
> me that Trump shouldn't be president because he `isn`t a
> politician.`
> You just got rid of a president who had weekly kill
> meetings, who said he was `good at killing people` and
> said `I can do anything I want- I`m the president` and you
> would have got that with knobs on if Hillary had got
> in. We have missed a serious bullet
>  IMHO 
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> Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2017 10:56:13 -0500
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> From: Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
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> Still doesn?t explain why a Trump win would ?overjoy? you.
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> Hold up, though ? to your point, Jaz has a CELLPHONE?
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> Alex in NYC
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>> On Jan 29, 2017, at 2:14 AM, kevin
> <patrickvieira at msn.com> wrote:
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>> 
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>> Mike like I said BPF put up an anti Trump piece by John
> Pilger on his FB.
> 
>> There was an interview with Jaz in Finland I think it
> was , backstage in a grotty looking dressing room
> 
>> where he was checking messages on his PHONE(!!!!!) and
> he stated he was probably more relieved
> 
>> that Hillary didn`t get in as opposed to Trump. Don`t
> shoot the messenger-it was on one of those
> 
>> KJ fan FB pages.
> 
>> I havent got any connections to the far right that I
> know of- but I do look at the Sport and Money pages
> 
>> on the Daily Mail website quite often so I suppose that
> does qualiify me in some peoples eyes
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>> Kevin I would love to know what Breibart has been spot
> on with?  It's been
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>> demonised because of its connections with the far right
> and the KKK?  I am
> 
>> hoping you are not connected to either!  There are
> lots of unbiased articles
> 
>> about TTIP you could look at or are you just used to
> going to Breibart
> 
>> liking what you read and then going with that?
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>>   
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>> TTIP would be right up Trumps street given his own
> global brands a good
> 
>> example because his option to a windfarm 3 miles off
> the coast of Scotland
> 
>> because it might spoil the view from his golf
> course?  Never mind the clean
> 
>> energy if will supply to the people who actually live
> in Scotland.  TTIP
> 
>> would allow him to challenge and beat legislation of
> the Scottish Parliament
> 
>> despite the fact the the fat stupid c..t lives in
> America.  The bloke is
> 
>> disgusting, stop reading Breibart coz it is clearly
> messing with your head.
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>> I still want to know where Jaz, Big Paul etc. said what
> you posted yesterday
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>> coz it contradicted everything I have seen them say. 
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>> I just trawl alternative media Alex.
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>> Breitbart has been spot on with a lot of things.
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>> But of course it has been demonsed so i`m not supposed
> to look at it.
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>>> On Jan 28, 2017, at 10:01 AM, kevin
> <patrickvieira at msn.com <mailto:patrickvieira at msn.com>>
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> http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador-
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>> ttip-dead/
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>> <
> <applewebdata://A718456A-2360-461C-915E-95155D22262A>http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador
> <http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador>
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>> -ttip-dead/> 
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> <applewebdata://A718456A-2360-461C-915E-95155D22262A>http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador
> <http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador>
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>> -ttip-dead/> 
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> <applewebdata://A718456A-2360-461C-915E-95155D22262A>http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador
> <http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador>
> 
>> -ttip-dead/> Trump's Prospective EU Ambassador:
> TTIP is Dead
> 
>> 
> 
>> www.breitbart.com <http://www.breitbart.com/>
> 
>> 
> 
>> The economist and academic hotly tipped to be President
> Trump's ambassador
> 
>> to the European Union told the Breitbart News Daily
> Show that "TTIP is a non
> 
>> starter" and won't progress under the Trump
> administration.
> 
>> 
> 
>> 
> 
>>   
> 
>> <
> <applewebdata://A718456A-2360-461C-915E-95155D22262A>http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador
> <http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador>
> 
>> -ttip-dead/> 
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>> <
> <applewebdata://A718456A-2360-461C-915E-95155D22262A>http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador
> <http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador>
> 
>> -ttip-dead/> Trump's Prospective EU Ambassador:
> TTIP is Dead
> 
>> 
> 
>> www.breitbart.com <http://www.breitbart.com/>
> 
>> 
> 
>> The economist and academic hotly tipped to be President
> Trump's ambassador
> 
>> to the European Union told the Breitbart News Daily
> Show that "TTIP is a non
> 
>> starter" and won't progress under the Trump
> administration.
> 
>> 
> 
>> 
> 
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> 
>> <
> <applewebdata://A718456A-2360-461C-915E-95155D22262A>http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador
> <http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador>
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>> -ttip-dead/>     
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> <applewebdata://A718456A-2360-461C-915E-95155D22262A>http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador
> <http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador>
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>> <
> <applewebdata://A718456A-2360-461C-915E-95155D22262A>http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador
> <http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador>
> 
>> -ttip-dead/> Trump's Prospective EU Ambassador:
> TTIP is Dead
> 
>> 
> 
>> www.breitbart.com <http://www.breitbart.com/>
> 
>> 
> 
>> The economist and academic hotly tipped to be President
> Trump's ambassador
> 
>> to the European Union told the Breitbart News Daily
> Show that "TTIP is a non
> 
>> starter" and won't progress under the Trump
> administration.
> 
>> 
> 
>> 
> 
>>> Trump's Prospective EU Ambassador: TTIP is
> Dead
> 
>> <
> <applewebdata://A718456A-2360-461C-915E-95155D22262A>http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador
> <http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador>
> 
>> -ttip-dead/> 
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>> <
> <applewebdata://A718456A-2360-461C-915E-95155D22262A>http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador
> <http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador>
> 
>> -ttip-dead/> 
> 
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>> <
> <applewebdata://A718456A-2360-461C-915E-95155D22262A>http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador
> <http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/01/27/trumps-prospective-eu-ambassador>
> 
>> -ttip-dead/> Trump's Prospective EU Ambassador:
> TTIP is Dead
> 
>> 
> 
>> www.breitbart.com <http://www.breitbart.com/>
> 
>> 
> 
>> The economist and academic hotly tipped to be President
> Trump's ambassador
> 
>> to the European Union told the Breitbart News Daily
> Show that "TTIP is a non
> 
>> starter" and won't progress under the Trump
> administration.
> 
>> 
> 
>> 
> 
>>> www.breitbart.com <http://www.breitbart.com/>
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> Breitbart News Network
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>> www.breitbart.com <http://www.breitbart.com/>
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> 
>> Syndicated news and opinion website providing
> continuously updated headlines
> 
>> to top news and analysis sources.
> 
>> 
> 
>> 
> 
>>> The economist and academic hotly tipped to be
> President Trump's ambassador
> 
>> to the European Union told the Breitbart News Daily
> Show that "TTIP is a non
> 
>> starter" and won't progress under the Trump
> administration.
> 
>>> 
> 
>>> 
> 
>>> 
> 
>>>> On Jan 28, 2017, at 9:02 AM, kevin
> <patrickvieira at msn.com <mailto:patrickvieira at msn.com>
> 
>> <mailto:patrickvieira at msn.com
> <mailto:patrickvieira at msn.com>>>
> wrote:
> 
>>>> 
> 
>>>> That`s why I made a differentation and said
> `presumably dying.`
> 
>>>> So lets wait and see what happens with the
> TIPP.
> 
>>>> As for talking crap. Well on the day that I
> walk past a TV and SKY news
> 
>> are
> 
>>>> reporting on `what this spraying programme
> is` and `why the public
> 
>> shouldn`t be alarmed` I`ll get
> 
>>>> back to you on that.
> 
>>>> 
> 
>>>> Alex- me typing  3 days worth of wall
> taxt isn`t going to mak any
> 
>> difference to what you think. 
> 
>>>> 
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>>>> 
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>>>> From: Gathering
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>>>>     1. Re: Gathering Digest,
> Vol 168, Issue 15 (Mike Cooper)
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>>>>     2. Re: Gathering Digest,
> Vol 168, Issue 15 (Jim Harper)
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>>>>     3. Re: Gathering Digest,
> Vol 168, Issue 15 (Richard Hopkins)
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>>>> Message: 1
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>>>> Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 20:27:26 -0000
> 
>>>> From: "Mike Cooper"
> <mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk <mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk>
> 
>> <mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk <mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk>>
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>> <mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk <mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk>>>>
> 
>>>> To: "'A list about all things
> Killing Joke \(the band!\)'"
> 
>>> 
>>         
> <gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
> <mailto:gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>>
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>> <
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> 
>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 168,
> Issue 15
> 
>>>> Message-ID:
> <007501d278db$c6a4dd70$53ee9850$@coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk
> <mailto:007501d278db$c6a4dd70$53ee9850$@coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk>
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>> <mailto:007501d278db$c6a4dd70$53ee9850$@coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk
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>> 1d278db$c6a4dd70$53ee9850$@coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk
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>> <mailto:007501d278db$c6a4dd70$53ee9850$@coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk
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> 
>>>> Aren't TTIP and TPP completely different
> things?  I thought the former
> 
>> was
> 
>>>> concerning the deals for corporations and
> government which Trump The C.
> 
>>>> would almost certainly support and the latter
> a trade deal with pacific
> 
>>>> nations which he has ended.
> 
>>>> 
> 
>>>>   
> 
>>>> 
> 
>>>> Oh and by the way Kev you're talking
> crap.
> 
>>>> 
> 
>>>>   
> 
>>>> 
> 
>>>> From: Gathering [
> <applewebdata://A718456A-2360-461C-915E-95155D22262A>mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net
> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net>
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>> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net
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> On Behalf Of kevin
> 
>>>> Sent: 27 January 2017 06:57
> 
>>>> To: gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
> <mailto:gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>>
> 
>> <
> <applewebdata://A718456A-2360-461C-915E-95155D22262A>mailto:gathering at misera.net
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>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 168,
> Issue 15
> 
>>>> 
> 
>>>>   
> 
>>>> 
> 
>>>> I`m happy Trump got in. Fucking overjoyed
> actually.
> 
>>>> 
> 
>>>> Seem to recall there was a post on here
> around August from someone in
> 
>> the UK
> 
>>>> I think 
> 
>>>> 
> 
>>>> declaring he didn`t have a prayer. Mmmm.
> 
>>>> 
> 
>>>>   
> 
>>>> 
> 
>>>> I think Jaz mentioned he was more relieved
> that Hillary didn`t get in
> 
>> but he
> 
>>>> seems to change his views like the weather on
> these things.
> 
>>>> 
> 
>>>> He seemed to be really revelling in teasing
> the UK audiences about `How
> 
>> is
> 
>>>> your Brexit going?` etc but I also heard he
> was `50/50` on that
> 
>>>> 
> 
>>>> (strange for someone who seems to jump on
> people for being `fence
> 
>> sitters.`)
> 
>>>> 
> 
>>>> Jaz ws very outspoken on TIPP so now Trump
> has killed TPP I`m sure he is
> 
>>>> revelling in that presumably dying..
> 
>>>> 
> 
>>>>   
> 
>>>> 
> 
>>>> I don`t think BPF likes him but can`t speak
> for others. He put up a John
> 
>>>> Pilger piece which was very anti Trump during
> the election..
> 
>>>> 
> 
>>>> Geordie no idea but a big supporter of EU so
> I hear.
> 
>>>> 
> 
>>>>   
> 
>>>> 
> 
>>>> Youth I assume is wearing a Pink Pussy hat
> and waving a placard with a
> 
>>>> crying polar bear on it or something...
> 
>>>> 
> 
>>>>   
> 
>>>> 
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>>>>   
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>>>> 
> 
>>>> Message: 3
> 
>>>> Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 20:25:03 -0500
> 
>>>> From: Alexander Smith
> <vassifer at earthlink.net <mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net>
> 
>> <mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net
> <mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net>>
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> <applewebdata://A718456A-2360-461C-915E-95155D22262A>mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net
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>> <
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> <mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net
> <mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net>>>>
>> 
> 
>>>> To: "A list about all things Killing
> Joke (the band!)"
> 
>>> 
>>         
> <gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
> <mailto:gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>>
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>> <
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>>>> Subject: [kj] Killing Joke in the Age of
> Trump
> 
>>>> Message-ID:
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>> <
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>> <mailto:0D9FA8B6-0872-44C6-92A5-3C76DE29BA8C at earthlink.net
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>>>> <
> <applewebdata://A718456A-2360-461C-915E-95155D22262A>mailto:0D9FA8B6-0872-44C6-92A5-3C76DE29BA8C at earthlink.net
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>> <mailto:0D9FA8B6-0872-44C6-92A5-3C76DE29BA8C at earthlink.net
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> 
>> <
> <applewebdata://A718456A-2360-461C-915E-95155D22262A>mailto:0D9FA8B6-0872-44C6-92A5-3C76DE29BA8C at earthlink.net
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>> <mailto:0D9FA8B6-0872-44C6-92A5-3C76DE29BA8C at earthlink.net
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>>>> 
> 
>>>> At the risk of possibly re-igniting the
> surreally hostile thread I
> 
>>>> participated in back in November (wherein
> certain member of our
> 
>> estimable
> 
>>>> collective got a bit combative on the subject
> of the election to the
> 
>> point
> 
>>>> where I actually left the fold for a bit),
> I?m wondering how everyone?s
> 
>>>> feeling only six days into the era of Trump
> as President.
> 
>>>> 
> 
>>>> My feelings haven?t changed. I still believe
> it was an incalculable
> 
>> mistake.
> 
>>>> 
> 
>>>> But what about you?
> 
>>>> 
> 
>>>> More relevant to this list ? where are
> Messrs. Coleman, Walker, Glover
> 
>> and
> 
>>>> Ferguson? I know Youth has weighed in
> periodically on FB about Trump
> 
>> (he,
> 
>>>> unsurprisingly, does not appear to be a
> acolyte), but I?m positively
> 
>> gagging
> 
>>>> to hear what Jaz and BPF have to say about
> him.
> 
>>>> 
> 
>>>> Anyway, let?s hear your thoughts. I promise
> not to swan off like jilted
> 
>> prom
> 
>>>> queen. I?m just wondering what this largely
> Euro-centric (right?) group
> 
>> of
> 
>>>> folks have to say at this point.
> 
>>>> 
> 
>>>> The mood here in NYC, suffice to say, is not
> positive.
> 
>>>> 
> 
>>>> Cheers, you fuckers.
> 
>>>> 
> 
>>>> Alex in NYC.
> 
>>>> 
> 
>>>> 
> 
>>>> 
> 
>>>> 
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> Joke (the band!) About
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>>>> Message: 2
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>>>> Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 21:01:25 +0000
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>>>> From: Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk
> <mailto:jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk>
> 
>> <mailto:jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk <mailto:jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk>>
> <
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>> <mailto:jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk <mailto:jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk>>>>
> 
>>>> To: "A list about all things Killing
> Joke \(the band!\)"
> 
>>> 
>>         
> <gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
> <mailto:gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>>
> 
>> <
> <applewebdata://A718456A-2360-461C-915E-95155D22262A>mailto:gathering at misera.net
> <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
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> 
>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 168,
> Issue 15
> 
>>>> Message-ID:
> <247964454.4391662.1485550885390 at mail.yahoo.com <mailto:247964454.4391662.1485550885390 at mail.yahoo.com>
> 
>> <mailto:247964454.4391662.1485550885390 at mail.yahoo.com
> <mailto:247964454.4391662.1485550885390 at mail.yahoo.com>><mailto:247964454.439
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>> 1662.1485550885390 at mail.yahoo.com <mailto:1662.1485550885390 at mail.yahoo.com>
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>> <mailto:247964454.4391662.1485550885390 at mail.yahoo.com
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>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
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> 
>>>> You are correct Mike. The TIPP involves only
> the US and the EU. It's a
> 
>> separate beast entirely.
> 
>>>> 
> 
>>>> Jim.
> 
>>>> 
> 
>>>> On Fri, 27/1/17, Mike Cooper
> <mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk <mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk>
> 
>> <mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk <mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk>>
> <
> <applewebdata://A718456A-2360-461C-915E-95155D22262A>mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk
> <mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk>
> 
>> <mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk <mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk>>>>
> wrote:
> 
>>>> 
> 
>>>>   Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol
> 168, Issue 15
> 
>>>>   To: "'A list about all things
> Killing Joke (the band!)'"
> 
>> <gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
> 
>> <mailto:gathering at misera.net
> <mailto:gathering at misera.net>><mailto:gathering at misera.net
> <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
> 
>> <mailto:gathering at misera.net
> <mailto:gathering at misera.net>>>>
> 
>>>>   Date: Friday, 27 January, 2017, 20:27
> 
>>>>   
> 
>>>>   
> 
>>>>   Aren?t TTIP and TPP completely
> 
>>>>   different things?? I thought the former
> was concerning the
> 
>>>>   deals for corporations and government
> which Trump The C?
> 
>>>>   would almost certainly support and the
> latter a trade deal
> 
>>>>   with pacific nations which he has
> ended. ?Oh and by the way Kev you?re
> 
>>>>   talking crap. ?From: Gathering
> 
>>>>   [
> <applewebdata://A718456A-2360-461C-915E-95155D22262A>mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net
> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net>
> 
>> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net
> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net>>
> <
> <applewebdata://A718456A-2360-461C-915E-95155D22262A>mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net
> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net>
> 
>> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net
> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net>>>]
> On Behalf Of
> 
>>>>   kevin
> 
>>>>   Sent: 27 January 2017
> 
>>>>   06:57
> 
>>>>   To: gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
> <mailto:gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>>
> 
>> <
> <applewebdata://A718456A-2360-461C-915E-95155D22262A>mailto:gathering at misera.net
> <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
> <mailto:gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>>>
> 
>>>>   Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest,
> Vol
> 
>>>>   168, Issue 15 ?I`m happy Trump got in.
> Fucking
> 
>>>>   overjoyed actually.Seem to recall there
> was a post on
> 
>>>>   here around August from someone in the
> UK I think
> 
>>>>   declaring he didn`t have a prayer.
> 
>>>>   Mmmm.
> 
>>>>   ?I think Jaz
> 
>>>>   mentioned he was more relieved that
> Hillary didn`t get in
> 
>>>>   but he seems to change his views like
> the weather on these
> 
>>>>   things.He seemed to be really
> revelling
> 
>>>>   in teasing the UK audiences about `How
> is your Brexit
> 
>>>>   going?` etc but I also heard he was
> `50/50` on
> 
>>>>   that(strange for someone who seems to
> 
>>>>   jump on people for being `fence
> sitters.`)Jaz
> 
>>>>   ws very outspoken on TIPP so now Trump
> has killed TPP I`m
> 
>>>>   sure he is revelling in that presumably
> dying.. ?I don`t think BPF
> 
>> likes him but
> 
>>>>   can`t speak for others. He put up a
> John Pilger piece which
> 
>>>>   was very anti Trump during the
> election..Geordie no idea but a big
> 
>>>>   supporter of EU so I hear. ?Youth I
> assume is wearing a Pink
> 
>>>>   Pussy hat and waving a placard with a
> crying polar bear on
> 
>>>>   it or something... ?
> 
>>>>   ?
> 
>>>>   
> 
>>>>   Message: 3
> 
>>>>   Date: Thu, 26 Jan
> 
>>>>   2017 20:25:03 -0500
> 
>>>>   From: Alexander Smith
> 
>>>>   <vassifer at earthlink.net <mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net>
> <mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net
> <mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net>>
> 
>> <
> <applewebdata://A718456A-2360-461C-915E-95155D22262A>mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net
> <mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net>
> <mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net
> <mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net>>>>
> 
>>>>   To: "A list about all things
> Killing Joke
> 
>>>>   (the band!)"
> 
>>>>   ??????? <gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
> <mailto:gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>>
> 
>> <
> <applewebdata://A718456A-2360-461C-915E-95155D22262A>mailto:gathering at misera.net
> <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
> <mailto:gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>>>>
> 
>>>>   Subject: [kj] Killing Joke in the Age
> of
> 
>>>>   Trump
> 
>>>>   Message-ID:
> <0D9FA8B6-0872-44C6-92A5-3C76DE29BA8C at earthlink.net
> <mailto:0D9FA8B6-0872-44C6-92A5-3C76DE29BA8C at earthlink.net>
> 
>> <mailto:0D9FA8B6-0872-44C6-92A5-3C76DE29BA8C at earthlink.net
> <mailto:0D9FA8B6-0872-44C6-92A5-3C76DE29BA8C at earthlink.net>>
> 
>> <
> <applewebdata://A718456A-2360-461C-915E-95155D22262A>mailto:0D9FA8B6-0872-44C6-92A5-3C76DE29BA8C at earthlink.net
> <mailto:0D9FA8B6-0872-44C6-92A5-3C76DE29BA8C at earthlink.net>
> 
>> <mailto:0D9FA8B6-0872-44C6-92A5-3C76DE29BA8C at earthlink.net
> <mailto:0D9FA8B6-0872-44C6-92A5-3C76DE29BA8C at earthlink.net>>>>
> 
>>>>   Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset=utf-8
> 
>>>>   
> 
>>>>   At the risk of possibly
> 
>>>>   re-igniting the surreally hostile
> thread I participated in
> 
>>>>   back in November (wherein certain
> member of our estimable
> 
>>>>   collective got a bit combative on the
> subject of the
> 
>>>>   election to the point where I actually
> left the fold for a
> 
>>>>   bit), I?m wondering how everyone?s
> feeling only six days
> 
>>>>   into the era of Trump as President.
> 
>>>>   
> 
>>>>   My feelings haven?t changed. I still
> believe it
> 
>>>>   was an incalculable mistake.
> 
>>>>   
> 
>>>>   But what about you?
> 
>>>>   
> 
>>>>   More relevant to this list ? where are
> Messrs.
> 
>>>>   Coleman, Walker, Glover and Ferguson? I
> know Youth has
> 
>>>>   weighed in periodically on FB about
> Trump (he,
> 
>>>>   unsurprisingly, does not appear to be a
> acolyte), but I?m
> 
>>>>   positively gagging to hear what Jaz and
> BPF have to say
> 
>>>>   about him.
> 
>>>>   
> 
>>>>   Anyway, let?s
> 
>>>>   hear your thoughts. I promise not to
> swan off like jilted
> 
>>>>   prom queen. I?m just wondering what
> this largely
> 
>>>>   Euro-centric (right?) group of folks
> have to say at this
> 
>>>>   point.
> 
>>>>   
> 
>>>>   The mood here in
> 
>>>>   NYC, suffice to say, is not positive.
> 
>>>>   
> 
>>>>   Cheers, you fuckers.
> 
>>>>   
> 
>>>>   Alex in NYC.
> 
>>>>   
> 
>>>>   
> 
>>>>   
> 
>>>>   
> 
>>>>   ------------------------------
> 
>>>>   
> 
>>>>   Subject: Digest Footer
> 
>>>>   
> 
>>>>  
> _______________________________________________
> 
>>>>   Gathering mailing list
> 
>>>>   Gathering at misera.net <mailto:Gathering at misera.net>
> <mailto:Gathering at misera.net <mailto:Gathering at misera.net>>
> 
>> <
> <applewebdata://A718456A-2360-461C-915E-95155D22262A>mailto:Gathering at misera.net
> <mailto:Gathering at misera.net>
> <mailto:Gathering at misera.net <mailto:Gathering at misera.net>>>
> 
>>>>   https://pairlist4.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
> <https://pairlist4.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering>
> 
>> <https://pairlist4.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
> <https://pairlist4.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering>>
> 
>> <
> <applewebdata://A718456A-2360-461C-915E-95155D22262A>https://pairlist4.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
> <https://pairlist4.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering>
> 
>> <https://pairlist4.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
> <https://pairlist4.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering>>>
> 
>>>>   Gathering Info Page -
> 
>>>>  
> pairlist4.pair.netpairlist4.pair.netGathering -- A list
> about all
> 
>>>>   things Killing Joke (the band!) About
> Gathering: The
> 
>>>>   Gathering is a mailing list about the
> band Killing
> 
>>>>   Joke.
> 
>>>>   
> 
>>>>   
> 
>>>>   ------------------------------
> 
>>>>   
> 
>>>>   End of Gathering Digest, Vol
> 
>>>>   168, Issue 15
> 
>>>>  
> ******************************************
> 
>>>>   -----Inline Attachment Follows-----
> 
>>>>   
> 
>>>>  
> _______________________________________________
> 
>>>>   Gathering mailing list
> 
>>>>   Gathering at misera.net <mailto:Gathering at misera.net>
> <mailto:Gathering at misera.net <mailto:Gathering at misera.net>>
> 
>> <
> <applewebdata://A718456A-2360-461C-915E-95155D22262A>mailto:Gathering at misera.net
> <mailto:Gathering at misera.net>
> <mailto:Gathering at misera.net <mailto:Gathering at misera.net>>>
> 
>>>>   https://pairlist4.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
> <https://pairlist4.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering>
> 
>> <https://pairlist4.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
> <https://pairlist4.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering>>
> 
>> <
> <applewebdata://A718456A-2360-461C-915E-95155D22262A>https://pairlist4.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
> <https://pairlist4.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering>
> 
>> <https://pairlist4.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
> <https://pairlist4.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering>>>
> 
>>>>   
> 
>>>> 
> 
>>>> 
> 
>>>> ------------------------------
> 
>>>> 
> 
>>>> Message: 3
> 
>>>> Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 21:43:47 +0000
> 
>>>> From: Richard Hopkins
> <ratclimber at gmail.com <mailto:ratclimber at gmail.com>
> 
>> <mailto:ratclimber at gmail.com
> <mailto:ratclimber at gmail.com>>
> <
> <applewebdata://A718456A-2360-461C-915E-95155D22262A>mailto:ratclimber at gmail.com
> <mailto:ratclimber at gmail.com>
> 
>> <mailto:ratclimber at gmail.com
> <mailto:ratclimber at gmail.com>>>>
> 
>>>> To: Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk
> <mailto:jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk>
> 
>> <mailto:jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk <mailto:jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk>>
> <
> <applewebdata://A718456A-2360-461C-915E-95155D22262A>mailto:jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk
> <mailto:jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk>
> 
>> <mailto:jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk <mailto:jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk>>>>,
> "A list about all things
> 
>>> 
>>          Killing
> Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
> 
>> <mailto:gathering at misera.net
> <mailto:gathering at misera.net>>
> <
> <applewebdata://A718456A-2360-461C-915E-95155D22262A>mailto:gathering at misera.net
> <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
> 
>> <mailto:gathering at misera.net
> <mailto:gathering at misera.net>>>>
> 
>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 168,
> Issue 15
> 
>>>> Message-ID:
> <9ptjn0cd048lqshj0ob9b4pu.1485553427706 at email.android.com
> <mailto:9ptjn0cd048lqshj0ob9b4pu.1485553427706 at email.android.com>
> 
>> <mailto:9ptjn0cd048lqshj0ob9b4pu.1485553427706 at email.android.com
> <mailto:9ptjn0cd048lqshj0ob9b4pu.1485553427706 at email.android.com>><mailto:9pt
> 
>> jn0cd048lqshj0ob9b4pu.1485553427706 at email.android.com
> <mailto:jn0cd048lqshj0ob9b4pu.1485553427706 at email.android.com>
> 
>> <mailto:9ptjn0cd048lqshj0ob9b4pu.1485553427706 at email.android.com
> <mailto:9ptjn0cd048lqshj0ob9b4pu.1485553427706 at email.android.com>>>>
> 
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> 
>>>> 
> 
>>>> You guys and you're alternative
> facts....Sad!
> 
>>>> 
> 
>>>> (?)
> 
>>>> 
> 
>>>> On 27 January 2017, at 21:01, Jim Harper via
> Gathering
> 
>> <gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
> 
>> <mailto:gathering at misera.net
> <mailto:gathering at misera.net>><mailto:gathering at misera.net
> <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
> 
>> <mailto:gathering at misera.net
> <mailto:gathering at misera.net>>>>
> wrote:
> 
>>>> 
> 
>>>> You are correct Mike. The TIPP involves only
> the US and the EU. It's a
> 
>> separate beast entirely.
> 
>>>> 
> 
>>>> Jim.
> 
>>>> 
> 
>>>> On Fri, 27/1/17, Mike Cooper
> <mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk <mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk>
> 
>> <mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk <mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk>>
> <
> <applewebdata://A718456A-2360-461C-915E-95155D22262A>mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk
> <mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk>
> 
>> <mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk <mailto:mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk>>>>
> wrote:
> 
>>>> 
> 
>>>>   Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol
> 168, Issue 15
> 
>>>>   To: "'A list about all things
> Killing Joke (the band!)'"
> 
>> <gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
> 
>> <mailto:gathering at misera.net
> <mailto:gathering at misera.net>><mailto:gathering at misera.net
> <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
> 
>> <mailto:gathering at misera.net
> <mailto:gathering at misera.net>>>>
> 
>>>>   Date: Friday, 27 January, 2017, 20:27
> 
>>>>   
> 
>>>>   
> 
>>>>   Aren?t TTIP and TPP completely
> 
>>>>   different things?? I thought the former
> was concerning the
> 
>>>>   deals for corporations and government
> which Trump The C?
> 
>>>>   would almost certainly support and the
> latter a trade deal
> 
>>>>   with pacific nations which he has
> ended. ?Oh and by the way Kev you?re
> 
>>>>   talking crap. ?From: Gathering
> 
>>>>   [
> <applewebdata://A718456A-2360-461C-915E-95155D22262A>mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net
> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net>
> 
>> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net
> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net>>
> <
> <applewebdata://A718456A-2360-461C-915E-95155D22262A>mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net
> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net>
> 
>> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net
> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net>>>]
> On Behalf Of
> 
>>>>   kevin
> 
>>>>   Sent: 27 January 2017
> 
>>>>   06:57
> 
>>>>   To: gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
> <mailto:gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>>
> 
>> <
> <applewebdata://A718456A-2360-461C-915E-95155D22262A>mailto:gathering at misera.net
> <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
> <mailto:gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>>>
> 
>>>>   Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest,
> Vol
> 
>>>>   168, Issue 15 ?I`m happy Trump got in.
> Fucking
> 
>>>>   overjoyed actually.Seem to recall there
> was a post on
> 
>>>>   here around August from someone in the
> UK I think
> 
>>>>   declaring he didn`t have a prayer.
> 
>>>>   Mmmm.
> 
>>>>   ?I think Jaz
> 
>>>>   mentioned he was more relieved that
> Hillary didn`t get in
> 
>>>>   but he seems to change his views like
> the weather on these
> 
>>>>   things.He seemed to be really
> revelling
> 
>>>>   in teasing the UK audiences about `How
> is your Brexit
> 
>>>>   going?` etc but I also heard he was
> `50/50` on
> 
>>>>   that(strange for someone who seems to
> 
>>>>   jump on people for being `fence
> sitters.`)Jaz
> 
>>>>   ws very outspoken on TIPP so now Trump
> has killed TPP I`m
> 
>>>>   sure he is revelling in that presumably
> dying.. ?I don`t think BPF
> 
>> likes him but
> 
>>>>   can`t speak for others. He put up a
> John Pilger piece which
> 
>>>>   was very anti Trump during the
> election..Geordie no idea but a big
> 
>>>>   supporter of EU so I hear. ?Youth I
> assume is wearing a Pink
> 
>>>>   Pussy hat and waving a placard with a
> crying polar bear on
> 
>>>>   it or something... ?
> 
>>>>   ?
> 
>>>>   
> 
>>>>   Message: 3
> 
>>>>   Date: Thu, 26 Jan
> 
>>>>   2017 20:25:03 -0500
> 
>>>>   From: Alexander Smith
> 
>>>>   <vassifer at earthlink.net <mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net>
> <mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net
> <mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net>>
> 
>> <
> <applewebdata://A718456A-2360-461C-915E-95155D22262A>mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net
> <mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net>
> <mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net
> <mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net>>>>
> 
>>>>   To: "A list about all things
> Killing Joke
> 
>>>>   (the band!)"
> 
>>>>   ??????? <gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
> <mailto:gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>>
> 
>> <
> <applewebdata://A718456A-2360-461C-915E-95155D22262A>mailto:gathering at misera.net
> <mailto:gathering at misera.net>
> <mailto:gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net>>>>
> 
>>>>   Subject: [kj] Killing Joke in the Age
> of
> 
>>>>   Trump
> 
>>>>   Message-ID:
> <0D9FA8B6-0872-44C6-92A5-3C76DE29BA8C at earthlink.net
> <mailto:0D9FA8B6-0872-44C6-92A5-3C76DE29BA8C at earthlink.net>
> 
>> <mailto:0D9FA8B6-0872-44C6-92A5-3C76DE29BA8C at earthlink.net
> <mailto:0D9FA8B6-0872-44C6-92A5-3C76DE29BA8C at earthlink.net>>
> 
>> <
> <applewebdata://A718456A-2360-461C-915E-95155D22262A>mailto:0D9FA8B6-0872-44C6-92A5-3C76DE29BA8C at earthlink.net
> <mailto:0D9FA8B6-0872-44C6-92A5-3C76DE29BA8C at earthlink.net>
> 
>> <mailto:0D9FA8B6-0872-44C6-92A5-3C76DE29BA8C at earthlink.net
> <mailto:0D9FA8B6-0872-44C6-92A5-3C76DE29BA8C at earthlink.net>>>>
> 
>>>>   Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset=utf-8
> 
>>>>   
> 
>>>>   At the risk of possibly
> 
>>>>   re-igniting the surreally hostile
> thread I participated in
> 
>>>>   back in November (wherein certain
> member of our estimable
> 
>>>>   collective got a bit combative on the
> subject of the
> 
>>>>   election to the point where I actually
> left the fold for a
> 
>>>>   bit), I?m wondering how everyone?s
> feeling only six days
> 
>>>>   into the era of Trump as President.
> 
>>>>   
> 
>>>>   My feelings haven?t changed. I still
> believe it
> 
>>>>   was an incalculable mistake.
> 
>>>>   
> 
>>>>   But what about you?
> 
>>>>   
> 
>>>>   More relevant to this list ? where are
> Messrs.
> 
>>>>   Coleman, Walker, Glover and Ferguson? I
> know Youth has
> 
>>>>   weighed in periodically on FB about
> Trump (he,
> 
>>>>   unsurprisingly, does not appear to be a
> acolyte), but I?m
> 
>>>>   positively gagging to hear what Jaz and
> BPF have to say
> 
>>>>   about him.
> 
>>>>   
> 
>>>>   Anyway, let?s
> 
>>>>   hear your thoughts. I promise not to
> swan off like jilted
> 
>>>>   prom queen. I?m just wondering what
> this largely
> 
>>>>   Euro-centric (right?) group of folks
> have to say at this
> 
>>>>   point.
> 
>>>>   
> 
>>>>   The mood here in
> 
>>>>   NYC, suffice to say, is not positive.
> 
>>>>   
> 
>>>>   Cheers, you fuckers.
> 
>>>>   
> 
>>>>   Alex in NYC.
> 
>>>>   
> 
>>>>   
> 
>>>>   
> 
>>>>   
> 
>>>>   ------------------------------
> 
>>>>   
> 
>>>>   Subject: Digest Footer
> 
>>>>   
> 
>>>>  
> _______________________________________________
> 
>>>>   Gathering mailing list
> 
>>>>   Gathering at misera.net <mailto:Gathering at misera.net>
> <mailto:Gathering at misera.net <mailto:Gathering at misera.net>>
> 
>> <
> <applewebdata://A718456A-2360-461C-915E-95155D22262A>mailto:Gathering at misera.net
> <mailto:Gathering at misera.net>
> <mailto:Gathering at misera.net <mailto:Gathering at misera.net>>>
> 
>>>>   https://pairlist4.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
> <https://pairlist4.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering>
> 
>> <https://pairlist4.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
> <https://pairlist4.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering>>
> 
>> <
> <applewebdata://A718456A-2360-461C-915E-95155D22262A>https://pairlist4.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
> <https://pairlist4.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering>
> 
>> <https://pairlist4.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering
> <https://pairlist4.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/gathering>>>
> 
>>>>   Gathering Info Page -
> 
>>>>  
> pairlist4.pair.netpairlist4.pair.netGathering -- A list
> about all
> 
>>>>   things Killing Joke (the band!) About
> Gathering: The
> 
>>>>   Gathering is a mailing list about the
> band Killing
> 
>>>>   Joke.
> 
>>>>   
> 
>>>>   
> 
>>>>   ------------------------------
> 
>>>>   
> 
>>>>   End of Gathering Digest, Vol
> 
>>>>   168, Issue 15
> 
>>>>  
> ******************************************
> 
>>>>   -----Inline Attachment Follows-----
> 
>>>>   
> 
>>>>  
> _______________________________________________
> 
>>>>   Gathering mailing list
> 
>>>>   Gathering at misera.net <mailto:Gathering at misera.net>
> <mailto:Gathering at misera.net <mailto:Gathering at misera.net>>
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