[kj] Ha

[Neil Perry]

That setlist makes me want to get down the front and go nuts. What a gig!

On 25 October 2017 at 10:41, Nick Scott via Gathering <gathering at misera.net>
wrote:

> That is a very cynical viewpoint of E'G ;), no such tactics "Take Take
> Take" was part of their repertoire circa 1982, a quick look on setlist.fm confirms
> that.
>
> The latter half of 1982 with a few gigs in the US and Canada then back to
> the UK shows them including a few songs from 'Fire Dances' recorded in
> February-March 1983.
>
> I can assume that with the newly assigned Raven on bass they were in the
> process of writing and trying out songs for the forthcoming album, "Take
> Take Take" is one that hit the cutting room floor.  Seeing that "Ha" was
> rushed out in November 1982 and as you say the recording machine broke if
> anything is cynical it is E'G cashing in on what few tracks they had.
>
> I have always noticed very much a similarity in tone but amended chord
> progression and tempo between the guitar riff of "Good Samaritan" and "Take
> Take Take".
>
> Maybe "Take Take Take" was considered alongside "Sun Goes Down" as a B
> Side for "Birds Of A Feather", who knows, although a studio version does
> not look likely, I am sure with remasters etc we would have heard it by now.
>
> This is a setlist from Glasgow on 26th October 1982, same setlist on 27th
> October 1982 in Manchester.
>
>    1. The Hum
>    <https://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/killing-joke-63d692c3.html?song=The+Hum>
>    2. The Fall of Because
>    <https://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/killing-joke-63d692c3.html?song=The+Fall+of+Because>
>    3. Pssyche
>    <https://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/killing-joke-63d692c3.html?song=Pssyche>
>    4. Sun Goes Down
>    <https://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/killing-joke-63d692c3.html?song=Sun+Goes+Down>
>    5. The Pandys Are Coming
>    <https://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/killing-joke-63d692c3.html?song=The+Pandys+Are+Coming>
>    6. We Have Joy
>    <https://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/killing-joke-63d692c3.html?song=We+Have+Joy>
>    7. The Gathering
>    <https://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/killing-joke-63d692c3.html?song=The+Gathering>
>    8. Take Take Take
>    <https://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/killing-joke-63d692c3.html?song=Take+Take+Take>
>    9. Empire Song
>    <https://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/killing-joke-63d692c3.html?song=Empire+Song>
>    10. Change
>    <https://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/killing-joke-63d692c3.html?song=Change>
>    11. Chop-Chop
>    <https://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/killing-joke-63d692c3.html?song=Chop-Chop>
>    12. Lust Almighty
>    <https://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/killing-joke-63d692c3.html?song=Lust+Almighty>
>    13. Tension
>    <https://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/killing-joke-63d692c3.html?song=Tension>
>    14. Bloodsport
>    <https://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/killing-joke-63d692c3.html?song=Bloodsport>
>    15. Wardance
>    <https://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/killing-joke-63d692c3.html?song=Wardance>
>    16. Birds of a Feather
>    <https://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/killing-joke-63d692c3.html?song=Birds+of+a+Feather>
>
>
>
> On 23 October 2017 at 21:56 Paul Rangecroft <paul.rangecroft at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> There are bootlegs out there of other songs recorded at the same gig
> (actually two nights?) including Birds of a Feather, I think. Yes,
> apparently the recording machine broke because someone (Conny Plank?)
> used tape that was too heavy. There answer is in The Gathering
> archives somewhere. Mike Coles was reading some posts out to Geordie
> and he commented on this.
>
> I always assumed Take Take Take was deliberately left off everything
> else simply to increase sales of Ha!. KJ were never above such
> tactics, particularly in the E'G years.
>
> On 10/23/17, Neil Perry <65snoopy at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Ah I see, thanks. Always liked TTT - one of Geordie's weirdest riffs,
> > always wanted to hear a beefy studio version.
> > Never too late, eh...
> >
> > On 23 October 2017 at 14:47, Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I think more was recorded but the story I recall is that there was a
> >> malfunction so this was all they could use. Certainly nothing in the
> >> vaults
> >> when I had access to them.
> >>
> >> TTT. No idea! Not really the greatest of songs so maybe they didn’t
> >> bother
> >> with studio time. Shame really for documentation....
> >>
> >> > On 23 Oct 2017, at 13:33, Neil Perry <65snoopy at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I'm sure these questions have been covered before but what with
> >> > the failing memory these days, I'll bring them up again.
> >> > Anyone know whether there were more songs recorded at the Ha gig,
> >> > or was this in fact the whole gig? If there were more songs, why have
> >> > we not heard them?
> >> >
> >> > and
> >> >
> >> > Take Take Take - what is the story behind this song? Why was it never
> >> > on a studio recording, and was it ever played any other time apart
> from
> >> > on this tour? Has Jaz or anyone from the band ever spoken about this
> >> song?
> >> >
> >> > These things still bug me, 35 years on.
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