[kj] Trump

Fri Mar 1 07:43:14 EST 2019

While it would indeed be fun to meet at a KJ gig that probably is never
going to happen -
can't you just explain what it is you are talking about?

On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 at 17:34, Joe Cosenza <d_pin_the_c at hotmail.com> wrote:

> The MIC won't compromise National Security by disclosing 100%. If they do
> then they've already moved on waaay down the road. Some of their technology
> is years or even decades ahead of what the civilian sector has access to or
> even knows of.
> The array that is in Alaska isn't the one that I'm referring to. I'm
> probably one of the only people who wears a Hawaiian t-shirt at a Killing
> Joke concert. I'll be easy to spot so just come up to me and I'll show you
> exactly what I'm talking about.
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Gathering <gathering-bounces at misera.net> on behalf of Neil Perry <
> 65snoopy at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 27, 2019 4:44 PM
> *To:* A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> *Subject:* Re: [kj] Trump
>
> Yes I have heard of the HAARP program. It was a research project set up to
> study the ionosphere, and partly to see whether
> technology could be developed for use in radio communications - bouncing
> powerful radio signals off the lower ionosphere.
>
> It was not - repeat not - set up to modify the weather, fry satellites in
> space, control minds etc etc. Because all that
> stuff is frigging impossible.
>
> However, because it was originally partly funded by the US military, the
> conspiracy theories just grew and grew.
> The US military ended the HAARP program experiments in 2014. And what's
> more, nothing that was done
> there was 'secret' - all research was openly available and published in
> scientific journals.
> The facility is now owned by the University of Alaska, which held an open
> day for the public not so long ago.
> The former HAARP antenna array is apparently available for hire to any
> researchers who want to use it.
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 at 17:43, Joe Cosenza <d_pin_the_c at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Because that's EXACTLY what I said. Yeah, in a hidden room (the chair that
> Lincoln is sitting on at the memorial is actually hollow) and behind a
> curtain, like the Wizard of Oz, he pulls levers and turns dials all day to
> make it snow. He is SOOO busy doing this that he can't get up but there are
> little elves that come in and bring him a diet Coke and massage his feet
> when they are not busy baking the fucking cookies. Have none of you heard
> of HAARP?
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Gathering <gathering-bounces at misera.net> on behalf of Neil Perry <
> 65snoopy at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 27, 2019 8:42 AM
> *To:* A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> *Subject:* Re: [kj] Trump
>
> :-)
>
> Yes, until there is a permanent, 100-metre wide, 3,000-kilometre long
> hurricane along the
> entire length of the border with Mexico, I refuse to believe it.
>
> On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 at 13:39, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
> Trump can barely control his own hair.
>
> Alex in NYC
>
> On Feb 27, 2019, at 7:32 AM, Neil Perry <65snoopy at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> So Trump is controlling the weather... how is he doing that, exactly?
>
> On Mon, 25 Feb 2019 at 01:54, T.B. <planetary at socal.rr.com> wrote:
>
> I also didn't vote for Trump - or Clinton.  I thought both were shitty
> candidates and I couldn't in clear conscious cast a vote for either
> candidate. The first time I've ever left the Presidential selection empty.
> Not that it matters, living in California I think something like 90%+ voted
> for Clinton.  I am supremely pissed off at the Republican party for have a
> great opportunity to address the issues with ObamaCare and totally blowing
> the chance.  As far as I'm concerned, both parties can kiss my chocky
> starfish.
>
> I think Trump's turned out be every bit as lousy (certainly stupid) a
> President as expected, but I also think some decent things have happened on
> his watch.  Joe Cosenza brought up a few things in his reply.  Nobody can
> argue the economy is humming along even despite the China trade war.  I
> think he's shined a light on the horrible immigration (legal and illegal)
> situation in this country regardless of how silly his argument for a "wall"
> comes off.  I live in Southern California, I see firsthand how unregulated
> illegal immigration from Mexico is a drain on local resources.  The funny
> thing is, the Obama administration was actually more draconian in deporting
> aliens and was also a proponent of "building a wall" but that got nowhere
> near the attention Trump gets on the issue.
>
> One of the things I don't see discussed much pro or con in regards to
> Trump's tenure, is how he has perhaps inadvertently (just by the way he
> does things) exposed just how fucked up and impotent the Federal government
> has become.  I also don't get how a lot of people that have fixated on
> Trump to the point he seems to dominate their every waking moment.  Sure,
> hate the guy but seriously, with some people it's pathological.  It has
> crept into every online forum I traffic in no matter how non-political some
> of those forums may be.  The whole deal with Jussie Smollett is a microcosm
> of what I'm talking about.   I think some people are going to jump off
> bridges when the Mueller investigation (finally) wraps and calls for
> anything less than Trumps' crucifixion.
>
> I'm old enough to vividly remember the days of Nixon and Carter... a lot
> of shit people complain about right now is first world problems compared to
> some of the nonsense back in the early to late 70's.  Like those goofs,
> we'll all get through the Trump era.  The thing to be aware of, as we've
> been seeing every election cycle things and candidates seem to swing
> farther and farther to the extreme right and left.  I would not be
> surprised if we get an ultra-progressive Liberal like an Alexandria
> Ocasio-Cortez who is 180 degrees the flip side of Trump but equally stupid
> and potentially damaging to the country as POTUS within a decade.
>
> Then again, the way our society is going, I wouldn't be surprised with
> Civil War and the US splitting up like the Soviet Union in the 90's in our
> lifetime.
>
> ++++++++++++++++++
>
>
> From: Gathering [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of
> jpwhkj--- via Gathering
>
> Hi Joe,
>
> Thanks for responding - interesting points.
>
> One follow-up from me.  You say you didn't vote for him.  Did you vote at
> all (in the 2016 PE)?  And if so, who for (if you don't mind telling us)?
> And crucially - why?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jamie
>
>
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