[kj] "PUT ON YOUR MASKS ...AND ANIMAL SKINS..."

Fri Jul 17 13:13:20 EDT 2020

By that I meant viruses, disease etc are all part of the natural cycle -
they're nature's way of thinning the herd.

On Fri, 17 Jul 2020, 17:50 GREG SLAWSON, <gregslawson at msn.com> wrote:

> Yes, but nature does not "try" to control the human population. Every
> species, including viruses, try to survive. Humans are supposedly smarter
> than viruses and know how to control them. Trump and his sub-human
> supporters chose not to. They are fascists, and are the main danger to the
> human race, just like Hitler once was.
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> *From:* Gathering <gathering-bounces at misera.net> on behalf of fatpotanga <
> fatpotanga at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, July 17, 2020 12:45 PM
> *To:* A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <
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> *Subject:* Re: [kj] "PUT ON YOUR MASKS ...AND ANIMAL SKINS..."
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> My take is pretty much the same as yours Alex. Totally agree with
> everything you've said.
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> It's one of those things nature throws out once in a while to try and keep
> populations under control, and we'll eventually bat it back and wait for
> the next one while we as a species continue to grow exponentially.
>
> Trump aside, I think any criticism of any governments handling of this
> anywhere in the world is largely based on hindsight. It's an unprecedented
> situation where you're damned if you do and damned if you don't.
>
> Jaz. Truth be told I'm getting a tad bored of. I remember reading years
> ago "I still have all ravens SMS messages." With no phone? That's
> impressive.
> And all that bollocks about the internet and singing "kiss my internet
> goodbye" on a live version of intellect. But now...?
> I get that it's a bit if theatre, but the same act, for me, has become a
> bit monotonous.
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> On Fri, 17 Jul 2020, 17:01 GREG SLAWSON, <gregslawson at msn.com> wrote:
>
> Alex is correct a big chunk of Americans are ignorant and fascists and
> others who are not believe in stupid conspiracy theories. On the plus side
> the majority are against the Nazi minority, tens of millions are protesting
> police murders, and a majority are trying to contain the virus.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 17, 2020, at 10:59 AM, Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:
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> Good morning, all....
>
> I'm sure some of you have seen Jaz's latest video blog entry via his new
> black'n'red page. If not, the link is out there... it's Jaz speaking to his
> cellphone (he must have one, now?) from somewhere in Central America, where
> he's working on some new classical music (a piano concerto).
>
> Content-wise, it's typical Coleman ... talking up his latest project ("The
> Day the Earth Went Mad") and suggesting that its success has been
>  unprecedented ... which I think *might* be a *bit* of an overstatement,
> but I haven't seen any figures to suggest one way or the other.
>
> Beyond that, Jaz speaks elliptically about the current world health
> crisis, affirming that he believes nothing is accidental on a geopolitical
> level (translation: the pandemic was somehow orchestrated? ... or, at the
> very least, being used as an opportunity by "them"). He gravely asserts
> repeatedly throughout the clip that he will not succumb to "compulsory
> vaccination" and alluding to comments Bill Gates allegedly made about
> curtailing overpopulation. He also alludes to own own precognitive prowess
> for predicting such things. All in a day's work for our Jaz, of course.
>
> He does *NOT* get into the mask debate, although I'm quite certain he has
> thoughts on the matter. He does not sport a mask in the clip, but then...
> he appears to be alone during proceedings.
>
> My question here is this, dear Gatherers... where do YOU stand on these
> issues?
>
> I know Jaz has pretty much never met a conspiracy theory he didn't like,
> but I cannot say that I share his view on this point. I don't have enough
> faith in my fellow man to be able to orchestrate such things. Sometimes a
> tremendous calamity is just that .. a tremendous calamity. You, of course,
> may beg to differ.
>
> Here in the States, of course, it is the very definition of a clusterfuck.
> While New York has managed to more or less get onboard and bring the
> infection rate down (which is not to say it won't spike up again),
> seemingly the rest of the nation simply cannot get their heads around it.
> While I'd always harbored by own preconceptions about my fellow countrymen,
> this crisis has only confirmed them. By and large, Americans are selfish,
> arrogant, myopic and willfully ignorant. Prove me wrong.
>
> I do not pretend to know what is going to happen next, but as there is no
> vaccine at the moment, I have no great hope of a return to "normalcy"
> occurring any time soon. I raised this point on the Jaz Coleman Facebook
> page, and earned a quick rejoinder suggesting that I am basically being
> conditioned into craving a vaccine via propaganda. Personally speaking, I
> find this worldview somewhat dim.
>
> Our government already has more of my information than can be quantified
> by my social security number, my tax information and pretty much all my
> vital statistics, to say nothing of the the phone I regularly carry around
> with me.
>
> I don't believe COVID-19 was created in a lab. I also don't believe it's a
> hoax. There are still morgues in the streets of New York City. It's all
> very real.
>
> I don't believe wearing a mask is an impingement on my personal,
> Constitutionally protected freedoms. At worst, it's a mild inconvenience.
> As has been said elsewhere, if you think wearing a mask is uncomfortable,
> WAIT `TIL YOU TRY THE VENTILATOR.
>
> Myself and my immediate family have all been safe and healthy, but we do
> know several folks who've been infected, and their stories of their
> experiences are fairly harrowing.
>
> What are YOUR feelings and experiences with this, so far?
>
> Alex in NYC
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