[kj] "PUT ON YOUR MASKS ...AND ANIMAL SKINS..."

Fri Jul 17 13:17:01 EDT 2020

For any that have not seen the Jaz video...

https://youtu.be/CVA0_9s0bTY

https://jazcoleman.com/jaz-beams-in-from-central-america/

I agree with all you said Alex, but I don't think it is just some Americans
who have acted a bit stupid over this whole issue, plenty of morons in my
country too ...lol

Personally I've been wearing a mask out and about in shops etc., no issues.
I have to laugh at the way some are wearing masks though, they might as
well not be. Noses out or masks worn under chins, pointless.

In the last few months I've had two more grandchildren born and what seems
abnormal to us, will be their normal, amazing how quickly things changed
and to a large degree were accepted. I do know people though who have
caught the virus and most recovered, but some have died. The whole issue
around funerals then just made all that harder for those affected. I know
of one family who lost their mother, but because of not knowing if she was
infected or not, no one could attend the crematorium to see her off, so sad.

I don't go for any of the conspiracy theories, the 5G one being the
most ludicrous. then all the fuss being made over phone tracking. I had no
problem putting the Covid-19 Tracker app on my phone and understand exactly
what the software is doing and if it helps lower the spread, I'm all for
it. As you said, they've (the govt) more than enough info on me as it is,
but using phones to contract trace, makes sense when over 90% of people
carry one everyday. It does not mean our governments are suddenly going to
turn into Chinese style Stasi or the likes.

End of the day, Jaz is Jaz and although he may well believe in a lot of
what he says, I'd say a lot is just for the effect and publicity and he
himself knows a lot of what he says is just utter BS ...lol We all still
love the man though and are under no obligation to follow every
utterance he makes as fact.

Anyway, my 2 cents for what it is worth.

Stay safe all : )

dub

On Fri, 17 Jul 2020 at 17:50, GREG SLAWSON <gregslawson at msn.com> wrote:

> Yes, but nature does not "try" to control the human population. Every
> species, including viruses, try to survive. Humans are supposedly smarter
> than viruses and know how to control them. Trump and his sub-human
> supporters chose not to. They are fascists, and are the main danger to the
> human race, just like Hitler once was.
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> *From:* Gathering <gathering-bounces at misera.net> on behalf of fatpotanga <
> fatpotanga at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, July 17, 2020 12:45 PM
> *To:* A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <
> gathering at misera.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [kj] "PUT ON YOUR MASKS ...AND ANIMAL SKINS..."
>
> My take is pretty much the same as yours Alex. Totally agree with
> everything you've said.
>
> It's one of those things nature throws out once in a while to try and keep
> populations under control, and we'll eventually bat it back and wait for
> the next one while we as a species continue to grow exponentially.
>
> Trump aside, I think any criticism of any governments handling of this
> anywhere in the world is largely based on hindsight. It's an unprecedented
> situation where you're damned if you do and damned if you don't.
>
> Jaz. Truth be told I'm getting a tad bored of. I remember reading years
> ago "I still have all ravens SMS messages." With no phone? That's
> impressive.
> And all that bollocks about the internet and singing "kiss my internet
> goodbye" on a live version of intellect. But now...?
> I get that it's a bit if theatre, but the same act, for me, has become a
> bit monotonous.
>
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> On Fri, 17 Jul 2020, 17:01 GREG SLAWSON, <gregslawson at msn.com> wrote:
>
> Alex is correct a big chunk of Americans are ignorant and fascists and
> others who are not believe in stupid conspiracy theories. On the plus side
> the majority are against the Nazi minority, tens of millions are protesting
> police murders, and a majority are trying to contain the virus.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 17, 2020, at 10:59 AM, Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
> Good morning, all....
>
> I'm sure some of you have seen Jaz's latest video blog entry via his new
> black'n'red page. If not, the link is out there... it's Jaz speaking to his
> cellphone (he must have one, now?) from somewhere in Central America, where
> he's working on some new classical music (a piano concerto).
>
> Content-wise, it's typical Coleman ... talking up his latest project ("The
> Day the Earth Went Mad") and suggesting that its success has been
>  unprecedented ... which I think *might* be a *bit* of an overstatement,
> but I haven't seen any figures to suggest one way or the other.
>
> Beyond that, Jaz speaks elliptically about the current world health
> crisis, affirming that he believes nothing is accidental on a geopolitical
> level (translation: the pandemic was somehow orchestrated? ... or, at the
> very least, being used as an opportunity by "them"). He gravely asserts
> repeatedly throughout the clip that he will not succumb to "compulsory
> vaccination" and alluding to comments Bill Gates allegedly made about
> curtailing overpopulation. He also alludes to own own precognitive prowess
> for predicting such things. All in a day's work for our Jaz, of course.
>
> He does *NOT* get into the mask debate, although I'm quite certain he has
> thoughts on the matter. He does not sport a mask in the clip, but then...
> he appears to be alone during proceedings.
>
> My question here is this, dear Gatherers... where do YOU stand on these
> issues?
>
> I know Jaz has pretty much never met a conspiracy theory he didn't like,
> but I cannot say that I share his view on this point. I don't have enough
> faith in my fellow man to be able to orchestrate such things. Sometimes a
> tremendous calamity is just that .. a tremendous calamity. You, of course,
> may beg to differ.
>
> Here in the States, of course, it is the very definition of a clusterfuck.
> While New York has managed to more or less get onboard and bring the
> infection rate down (which is not to say it won't spike up again),
> seemingly the rest of the nation simply cannot get their heads around it.
> While I'd always harbored by own preconceptions about my fellow countrymen,
> this crisis has only confirmed them. By and large, Americans are selfish,
> arrogant, myopic and willfully ignorant. Prove me wrong.
>
> I do not pretend to know what is going to happen next, but as there is no
> vaccine at the moment, I have no great hope of a return to "normalcy"
> occurring any time soon. I raised this point on the Jaz Coleman Facebook
> page, and earned a quick rejoinder suggesting that I am basically being
> conditioned into craving a vaccine via propaganda. Personally speaking, I
> find this worldview somewhat dim.
>
> Our government already has more of my information than can be quantified
> by my social security number, my tax information and pretty much all my
> vital statistics, to say nothing of the the phone I regularly carry around
> with me.
>
> I don't believe COVID-19 was created in a lab. I also don't believe it's a
> hoax. There are still morgues in the streets of New York City. It's all
> very real.
>
> I don't believe wearing a mask is an impingement on my personal,
> Constitutionally protected freedoms. At worst, it's a mild inconvenience.
> As has been said elsewhere, if you think wearing a mask is uncomfortable,
> WAIT `TIL YOU TRY THE VENTILATOR.
>
> Myself and my immediate family have all been safe and healthy, but we do
> know several folks who've been infected, and their stories of their
> experiences are fairly harrowing.
>
> What are YOUR feelings and experiences with this, so far?
>
> Alex in NYC
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