[IGDA_indies] Experimental Game Design SIG
C Ratchet
zratchet at mindspring.com
Thu Feb 10 14:24:36 EST 2005
Sounds good to me...
Ratchet
On Feb 10, 2005, at 8:43 AM, Brandon J. Van Every wrote:
> Jason Della Rocca wrote:
>>
>> Hmm right, you are probably on to something. A generic all
>> encompassing "Indie SIG" just seems too broad and too unfocused.
>>
>> That said, "Indie Game Design SIG" still doesn't sound right,
>> but I get
>> your meaning. How about "Experimental Game Design SIG", or
>> some title that
>> implies innovation that is inclusive of all those designing
>> games (indie or otherwise).
>
> I must agree, that's catchy.
>
>> But, I still have to ask the question, what would such a SIG
>> actually do?
>
> Write whitepapers. Methodologies of innovation. Difficulties of
> production. Actually do lightweight prototyping of games using open
> source tools, such as the Nebula2 3D engine, in short timeframes.
> Compare, for instance, the Indie Game Jam http://www.indiegamejam.com/
> Collect up extensive lists of games that actually did innovate,
> somehow.
> In some significant manner. Jury a publication of so-called innovative
> titles. That would be somewhat like IGF judging, but I'd expect the
> SIG
> membership to be self-selecting and therefore more focused on
> innovation
> in a "hardcore" way.
>
> I do see collecting up "What's innovative" as more of a service than
> "Here are some Indie links." Everyone locates the indie links they
> need
> to survive. It's a PITA, but it's not that tough. But to review
> games,
> to have awareness of what's actually innovative out there, is terribly
> time consuming. I've played many of the IGF entrants extensively, in
> order to judge them fairly, but I'm sure there's more stuff out there
> than just the IGF. For instance, I'm almost completely oblivious to
> the
> console universe.
>
>> I think it is relatively easy to pick a topic/area of interest that
>> developers are interested in. The hard part is coming up with
>> a statement of purpose...
>
> In this case, I think the statement of purpose is easy. "To markedly
> increase the level of experimentation among game designers." The hard
> part is getting people to actually work towards that goal. For
> instance, I adopted the cynical position some time ago that the
> industry
> only respects money. Make a few millions on something "innovative,"
> and
> then people will sit up and take notice. And probably not before.
> But,
> it's possible that *Game Designers* are more malleable than the
> industry
> in general. The key here would be lightweight prototyping tools.
> Nobody's got time to throw more than a day or two at projects that
> aren't their own projects.
>
>
> Cheers, www.indiegamedesign.com
> Brandon Van Every Seattle, WA
>
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