[IGDA_indies] more opinions on the value of theIGDA(esp.forin dies)

Thu Jul 22 00:46:42 EDT 2004

> Let the membership know how they can effect change and make the organization better

Good idea. 

Although there is a forum thread dedicated to IGDA feedback. Perhaps we should have an IGDA mailing list - not just the newsletter, but a list for the type of discussions that are taking place here.

We seem to be spending a lot of time on the 'indie' list speaking about the IGDA as a whole. Perhaps it is a sign that "IGDA issues" would make a decent active list. 

Brandii R. Grace
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> Jason,
> 
> > Sorry for the aggressive tone.
> 
> Frankly, I'd say you've been rather controlled and hardly aggressive based
> on the two sets of comments you are responding to.
> 
> > Who's fault is that? The IGDA provides basic infrastructure for SIGs
> > (and chapters), but it is up to the developers to actually do the action.
> 
> I'd only add a little more information on how to get involved and evoke
> change beyond just participating in the forums might be a start.  Let the
> membership know how they can effect change and make the organization better
> instead of sitting around and waiting for something to happen to them.  
> 
> I've been a member now for 6-7 months and I haven't seen any information on
> that.  Then, truly, it is the member's problem for not getting involved; not
> making things better.
> 
> I have relished the contacts I've made and the information I've gleaned as
> well as the local support of my local chapter, but for the membership to
> truly advance change they need to know how to do that at the organizational
> level.
> 
> Jon Bonnell
> President, Infinite Spectrum Productions
> http://www.infspec.com
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: indies-bounces at igda.org [mailto:indies-bounces at igda.org] On Behalf Of
> Jason Della Rocca
> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 7:12 PM
> To: Indie SIG mailing list
> Subject: Re: [IGDA_indies] more opinions on the value of the
> IGDA(esp.forindies)
> 
> 
> >is all talk, no action.
> 
> Who's fault is that? The IGDA provides basic infrastructure for SIGs (and 
> chapters), but it is up to the developers to actually do the action.
> 
> As Brandon noted, it is all about harnessing volunteer energy. If there is 
> no action, it is because no one here is taking any action.
> 
> To be fair, there are a few who are starting to rebuild the web site and 
> are looking at some new SIG projects, etc.
> 
> 
> >Who cares? I mean, really, where has all this organization gotten anyone?
> 
> To be clear, the role of a non-profit organization like the IGDA is to 
> benefit the community as a whole, and not directly any one member of the 
> community. For example, one role of the IGDA is to help students become 
> more employable by the industry right out of school by working with 
> universities on curriculum and degree programs. We do not actually help the 
> student get the job directly. This also has an effect on the quality of 
> workers in the industry, and potential quality of games made.
> 
> In terms of specifics, here are some other examples:
> 
> - the IGDA has participated in several court cases to defend games as an 
> artistic/expressive medium and save them from being censored/regulated by 
> the government (ie, the legal defense fund Brandon refers to)
> http://www.igda.org/censorship/lobbying.php
> 
> - we send 25 university students to GDC each year on scholarships
> http://www.igda.org/scholarships/
> 
> - we wrote a guide on how to best submit games to publishers
> http://www.igda.org/biz/submission_guide.php
> 
> - we wrote a curriculum framework that has been used by nearly every 
> college and university in the world to set up game degrees and courses
> http://www.igda.org/academia/curriculum_framework.php
> 
> - we present the Game Developers Choice Awards, the most respected and 
> credible industry awards
> http://www.igda.org/awards/
> 
> - we released a "quality of life" white paper that has shed much 
> attention/light on the topic of developer work/life balance issues
> http://www.igda.org/qol/whitepaper.php
> 
> - every month, dozens of IGDA chapters from around the word host meetings, 
> allowing developers to connect, share ideas and grow their personal networks
> http://www.igda.org/chapters/updates.php
> 
> - we hosted a developer members-only party at E3
> http://www.igda.org/events/rsvp_e3party.php
> 
> 
> 
> Seems like a lot more than just blah blah talk to me ;)
> 
> Have these things helped you personally? I don't know. Has this helped 
> better/grow the industry and community as a whole? I certainly like to 
> think so.
> 
> Can the IGDA do more? Yes! Can we do things better? Yes! We don't have all 
> the answers...
> 
> Sorry for the aggressive tone.
> 
> Jason
> 
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